September 3, 2010

smarter conversations: “how do i want to change the way i talk to people?”

[The “Life Is Too Short” print…]

I first star­ted pla­ying with the idea of “Smarter-Conversations” way back in 2004, the same year gaping­void really star­ted get­ting trac­tion in the blogopsphere.

Though not something I talk about day-in-day-out, it’s always been there somewhere in the back­ground, infor­ming everything I work on. Here are some notes:

1. In the semi­nal book, “The Clue­train Mani­festo”, the great Doc Searls famously dec­la­red, “Mar­kets are con­ver­sa­tions”. If you buy that pre­mise (and I do, who­lehear­tedly), then quod erat demons­tra­tum, if you want your mar­ke­ting to be smar­ter (i.e. more effec­tive), you need to be having a “Smar­ter Conversation”.

2. “Con­ver­sa­tion” is a metaphor. Making your pro­duct sleek, ele­gant and gra­ce­ful while all your other com­pe­ti­tors make their pro­duct look cheap, plas­tic and clunky is a smar­ter con­ver­sa­tion. Not all con­ver­sa­tions need words.

3. It’s not just what you say, its how you say it. Calling it the “iPod” is a smar­ter con­ver­sa­tion than say, the “MZT-2300-B Elec­tro­nic Por­ta­ble MP3 Digi­tal Hand Device”.

4. Smar­ter Con­ver­sa­tions scale. That’s what I really like about it. Anyone can have a smar­ter con­ver­sa­tion– from a mom n’ pop pizza joint to a For­tune 500 com­pany. It can hap­pen in a Super­bowl ad or on prin­ted on the back of a paper nap­kin. You can start one on a blog today, for free. Or on Twit­ter or Face­book. The tools don’t neces­sa­rily have to change, the way you talk to peo­ple has to change.

5. Deci­ding to have a smar­ter con­ver­sa­tion isn’t a busi­ness deci­sion, it’s a moral deci­sion. Like I said in the last point, the barriers to entry are zero. While your com­pe­ti­tion treats their cus­to­mers like idiots, you treat your cus­to­mers like inte­lli­gent human beings. You don’t do that because your accoun­tant told you to, you do that because that’s who you are.

6. The Smar­ter Conversation’s value comes from, I believe, not by yet more inc­rea­sed busi­ness effi­cien­cies, but by its huma­nity. For exam­ple, take two well-known air­li­nes. They both per­form a use­ful ser­vice. They both deli­ver value. They both cost about the same to fly to New York or Hong Kong. Both have nice Boeings and Air­bu­ses. Both serve pea­nuts and drinks. Both serve “air­line food”. Both use the same air­ports. But one air­line has friendly peo­ple wor­king for them, the other air­line has surly peo­ple wor­king for them. One air­line has a sense of fun and adven­ture about it, one has a tired, jaded business-commuter vibe about it. Guess which one takes the human dimen­sion of their busi­ness more seriously than the other? Guess which one still will be around in twenty years? Guess which one will lose billions of dollars worth of sha­rehol­der value over the next twenty years? What para­llels do you see in your own industry? In your own company?

7. If Smar­ter Con­ver­sa­tions work, it’s because they help huma­nize the com­pany. I wrote about this years ago in an article I called “The Porous Mem­brane”. To paraph­rase: Ideally, you want the con­ver­sa­tion bet­ween cus­to­mers [the exter­nal mar­ket] to be as iden­ti­cal as the con­ver­sa­tion bet­ween your­sel­ves [the inter­nal mar­ket]. The things that your cus­to­mer is pas­sio­nate about, you should also be pas­sio­nate about. This we call “align­ment”. A good exam­ple would be Apple. The peo­ple at Apple think the iPod is cool, and so do their cus­to­mers. They are alig­ned. When you are no lon­ger alig­ned with your cus­to­mers is when the com­pany starts get­ting into trou­ble. When you start saying your gizmo is great and your cus­to­mers are telling every­body it sucks, then you have serious misa­lign­ment. So how do you keep misa­lign­ment from hap­pe­ning? The ans­wer lies the cul­tu­ral mem­brane that sepa­ra­tes you from them. The more porous the mem­brane, the easier it is for con­ver­sa­tions bet­ween you and them, the inter­nal and exter­nal, to hap­pen. The easier for the con­ver­sa­tions on both sides to adjust to the other, to become like the other. And nothing pokes holes in the mem­brane bet­ter than blog­ging.

8. Social Media is not about reaching a mass audience. Social Media is not about crea­ting yet another sales chan­nel. Social Media is about allo­wing the Smar­ter Con­ver­sa­tion to hap­pen. That’s all. Why do some com­pa­nies lose, while other com­pa­nies win? Because the lat­ter has a smar­ter “con­ver­sa­tion” with its cus­to­mers. Zap­pos had a smar­ter con­ver­sa­tion about the power of cus­to­mer ser­vice and the power of com­pany cul­ture. Peet’s Cof­fee came along 20 years ago and began a smar­ter con­ver­sa­tion about cof­fee with millions of peo­ple within a very short space of time. Target’s recent mas­sive suc­cess star­ted from a smar­ter con­ver­sa­tion about good design. Savile Row tai­lor, Tho­mas Mahon came along and, with his blog, had a smar­ter con­ver­sa­tion about $4000 English bes­poke suits. Lucky’s Juice Joint had a smar­ter con­ver­sa­tion about fresh-squeezed. Big com­pa­nies, medium com­pa­nies and tiny com­pa­nies, wha­te­ver– it was never about size, it was never about the choice of media (social or other­wise), it was all about lan­guage. 

9. Social Media allows you to cheaply and quickly begin a smar­ter con­ver­sa­tion. And once you get it going, that con­ver­sa­tion starts blee­ding out into all other areas of your busi­ness– inc­lu­ding adver­ti­sing, PR and cor­po­rate communications.

10. Ask not what tools you want to use, ask how you want to change how you talk to peo­ple. All evo­lu­tions in mar­ke­ting are evo­lu­tions in lan­guage. Those who can raise the level of con­ver­sa­tion in any mar­ket, win.

11. Start today. It’s never too late to begin a Smar­ter Con­ver­sa­tion. Like I said, money or time is not the issue. Making the deci­sion is the issue, and only you can do that.


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14 Responses to “smarter conversations: “how do i want to change the way i talk to people?””

  1. wbiro says:

    I just purcha­sed your book in audio­book form (which I lis­ten to at work)(and I paid full price, I did, right off a Bor­ders Books shelf); it was only two hours long com­pa­red to a novel’s 10 – 20, but I figu­red the topic was worth the price.

    On first lis­ten it see­med like only street smarts due to the infor­mal way the narra­tor pre­sen­ted it; but on further lis­te­ning many deep and lear­ned thoughts broke through– I don’t know if they were ori­gi­nal or lear­ned, but you offe­red seve­ral new ways of loo­king at things for me.

    We agree on all the topics con­cer­ning crea­ti­vity, though in slightly dif­fe­rent words and nuances.

    Your doodle-commentaries are inte­res­ting (makes me want to open Paint and fill them in with colors).

    I came by to get a copy of your happy smiley-face drea­ming of being mise­ra­ble (to fit a poem I just wrote on an infor­mal wri­ting site on the topic). I want to give you cre­dit, and that will be my minus­cule con­tri­bu­tion to your fame. Whoo­pie! [throws con­fetti] [and there is a lot of that on the wri­ting site].

    My career is still in what you’d call the early sta­ges– it has been for about… hmmm… 30 years now… like you said, I’m enjo­ying my obs­cure (pure) crea­tive free­dom– I can go whe­re­ver my muse takes me…

  2. wbiro says:

    and on your topic today– what you are tal­king about is style, fashion, and mass-appeal (which requi­res a lot of dumbing-down). In my crea­tive endea­vors it is bet­ter to pon­der these issues as reflec­tion rather than a plan, for in plan­ning I would likely over-focus, with super­fi­cial and gra­tui­tous results; so for me it will be bet­ter to ask, “In what degree was I?” rather than “How will I?”

  3. Jim says:

    One of the first things I remem­ber lear­ning in adver­ti­sing is ‘write like you talk.’ Or, perhaps more appro­priate, ‘write like they talk.’ Why? Because when we craft mes­sa­ges that attempt to engage in the ver­na­cu­lar of the tar­get audience, it — crea­tes a men­tal con­ver­sa­tion. Thanks for the remin­der Hugh.

  4. ben rabner says:

    it is iro­nic — all of these social media por­tals allow us to com­mu­ni­cate and inte­ract so easily and quickly — yet they also seem to be de-humanizng our com­mu­ni­ca­tion. thank you for your com­ments. the human ele­ment is what really gives a con­ver­sa­tion con­tent and meaning.

  5. David Moore says:

    I think that cas­ca­ding effect of a good con­ver­sa­tion is what the best social media expe­rience offers. One person’s con­tri­bu­tion sparks a thought in someone that adds to the debate, then someone else chi­mes in, and you’re watching something emerge before your eyes.

  6. MarillaAnne says:

    :) Wil­son Cellu­lar sur­pri­sed the bajee­bers out of me when I pos­ted a ran­dom photo of my cell sig­nal boos­ter to Twit­ter. I did not men­tion Wil­son Cellu­lar in text. http://twitpic.com/28urtl.

    They didn’t come back and say “thanks for the promo” … no they asked me which equip­ment I was using. Sooo … me being me … I pos­ted this: http://twitpic.com/28wmge

    Then … for their further amu­se­ment I pos­ted this: http://twitpic.com/28wp6h Why? Because this little jewel has made some really fun adven­tu­res hap­pen. And it’s been fun! Lots of fun!

    When they came back in a totally con­ver­sa­tio­nal man­ner that I had made their day, I added that some­ti­mes ins­tead of the frying pan, I use the toas­ter oven. I won their hearts and a sur­prise RT of the day award.

    And of course we follow each other to this day. And I RT them as often as I have reason.

    I have had a Twit­ter account for some­time. Never used it. Gra­dually star­ted using it. Just lear­ning about auto­fo­llow bots.

    In the next few days follo­wing the Wil­son Cellu­lar encoun­ter, I men­tio­ned audio books in my Twit­ters. I had two audio book com­pa­nies start follo­wing me. One was Audible.

    I felt that at least Audi­ble should have known to engage even just a little bit. In com­pa­ri­son to @WilsonCellular, their follow felt like a creepy silent stalker.

    I admire @WilsonCellular. They may not be com­ple­tely Twit­ter savvy http://twitter.com/Wilsoncellular/status/22894770674, but they are com­ple­tely human.

  7. Hey,
    I think it’s funny that you men­tion Apple in #7, being as they are pro­bably the one com­pany that is tal­king the less with its cus­to­mers.
    They’re bri­llant at tal­king at their cus­to­mers, though. :)

    • Hugh MacLeod says:

      Syl­vain, are you kid­ding me? Apple are GREAT at “tal­king” to their customers.

      They just hap­pen to pre­fer using pro­ducts, ins­tead of words…

      “Con­ver­sa­tion is a metaphor”. Pay more atten­tion next time ;-)

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  9. Chirag says:

    Hi Hugh,
    I am great fan of you and your cartoons.

    I am a 9 year old kid and want to inter­view you to share your story on my blog.

    I really really think you are the coo­lest per­son on the pla­net :)

  10. I wish more PR com­pa­nies that con­tac­ted my blog had a clue what they were tal­king about! Maybe they need to read this article it might point them in the right direction.

  11. The par­ti­cu­lar man that really does much more than he is paid for will pro­bably in the near future be paid for much more than he / she does

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