February 23, 2009

second gapingvoid print in the works, or, why i’m not going down the gallery route

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[“We Need To Talk”]
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[“1 Corinthians 13″]
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[“SMS Impor­tant Thoughts”]

[UPDATE: Please e-mail me at gapingvoidprints@gmail.com if you want to pre-order, Thanks.]

Well, the plan is to start sen­ding out the Blue­train prints this week. It took a while to get the right fine art prin­ter in place, and get the silk screens just right. For those who are unfa­mi­liar with the pro­cess, we chose the somewhat labor-intensive pro­cess of silk scree­ning, so I had to proof the edi­tion and make sure each image was per­fect. Any­way, they are being flat pac­ked (ship­ping tubes could damage the print if peo­ple wan­ted to store them long-term) and hope­fully ship­ped late this week
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[“Blue­train”]
Here are some notes on the next Edition:

1. Above are the three con­ten­ders for the next limi­ted edi­tion– “We Need To Talk”, “1 Corinthians 13″, and “SMS Impor­tant Thoughts”. The one that rings the most bells win, so let’s hear your com­ments below, Thanks.
2. Like last time, it’ll be a sig­ned, Limi­ted Edi­tion of eighty-five, plus some artist proofs. Once they’re gone, they’re gone.
3. This edi­tion will retail for $400 apiece. Like last time, we’ll be offe­ring a dis­count to those peo­ple who pre-order before the actual prin­ting– $150 off– so $250 each [Plus ship­ping & hand­ling]. Except this time there’s an added sti­pu­la­tion– only peo­ple who have sig­ned up to my Crazy Deran­ged Fools News­let­ter will be able to pre-order. So if you’re a CDF mem­ber, please be watching your email inbo­xes in the next few days, or feel free to sign up now, Thanks.
4. The print will be silk scree­ned on pH neu­tral, French-made, archi­val paper– just as The Blue­train was. Dimen­sions will be pro­por­tio­nal to the ima­ges above with the rec­tan­gu­lar ones being about 25“x36”.
5. If you have any spe­ci­fic ques­tions or issues about the edi­tion, I have set up a new email address to handle all the print-related busi­ness: gapingvoidprints@gmail.com. Please address all que­ries and/or issues there, Thanks.
6. WHY THESE PRINTS RETAIL FOR ONLY $400.00 When the Blue­train went up for sale, a num­ber of peo­ple men­tio­ned that they thought it was too cheap. Lots of peo­ple think that ‘good’ art needs to be expen­sive. That used to be true. We are all used to the idea that the web can make things more effi­cient and cost effec­tive, but there are few pro­ducts where this is more true than with art. Here’s why:
The art mar­ket is set up where there are ‘artists’, ‘publishers’ and ‘galle­ries’. As expec­ted, ever­yone along the way needs to make a mar­gin. The artist gets paid for his image, the publisher finan­ces and con­tracts for the prin­ting, and then mar­kets the prints to galle­ries. It is a ‘char­ming’ 19th Cen­tury sys­tem. Unfor­tu­na­tely, everything gets very expen­sive. Quickly.
We’ve cho­sen to self-publish, and sell through the blog, even though I have been approached by many galle­ries over the years. I just don’t think that peo­ple who want to collect my work should have to pay for publishers mar­gins, high real estate pri­ces in trendy neigh­borhoods, gallery emplo­yee pay­rolls, free wine for the hangers-on, mar­kups on the fra­ming etc. All of these things jack the pri­ces up.
Next thing you know, ins­tead of paying $400 for a print, you’re paying $1500-$2000. Go hang in Chel­sea [Manhat­tan] if you don’t believe me. Sure, fine art is tra­di­tio­nally expen­sive– it’s a luxury item after all, an indi­ca­tor of sur­plus wealth etc– but with the Inter­net now so evol­ved, does it have to be this way? I’m not just tal­king about the old– fashio­ned, “We pas­sed the savings onto you” angle. It’s more like, since you’ve inves­ted in my work, I owe it to you guys to do my dam­ne­dest to see that your invest­ment pays off over the long-term. And that’s more likely to hap­pen at $400, than at $2000; do the math. Even if you’re never going to sell it, even if you got it at a steal, kno­wing that it’s worth far more than you paid for it makes you feel far bet­ter than the alter­na­tive. Of course it does.
Is self publishing risky? Sure it is. Am I plan­ning to sell my work for far more than $400 in the long run? Of course. But, I do know that [A] there is nothing like a good deal and [B] the folks who sup­port me early on will, in the full­ness of time, be very happy that they did.
7. Yes, I will admit, taking the plunge into the art busi­ness is a nerve-wracking expe­rience. Crazy, Deran­ged and Foo­lish, I know. I don’t care, frankly. I’ve wor­ked damn hard for many years to get to this point. Fuck ‘em if they don’t like it.

As Always, thank you for your love and sup­port. Rock on.
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69 Responses to “second gapingvoid print in the works, or, why i’m not going down the gallery route”

  1. we need to talk gets my vote
    sc

  2. Sam says:

    I’m down for one for sure. Boom!

  3. Susan Seybert says:

    Defi­ni­tely We Need to Talk.
    I will gift this to my hus­band. :-)

  4. Gary Sherman says:

    My vote is for “We need to talk”.

  5. Robert Bruce says:

    Corinthians. No question.

  6. Corinthians gets mine

  7. I would love to have Corinthians.

  8. Joel Kelly says:

    We need to talk for sure.

  9. John Rutter says:

    I’d vote for “We need to talk”

  10. Nick Arndt says:

    Corinthians.

  11. Tim Grahl says:

    I vote for Corinthians, does it count as two votes since I also twee­ted my choice?

  12. Has to be We Need to Talk — suc­cinct and to the point.

  13. Marc says:

    ‘We need to talk’ is my favou­rite. It struck a chord first time I saw it. Still does.

  14. Bob LeDrew says:

    We need to talk.

  15. Jen Harvey says:

    Without a doubt — “We Need to Talk”

  16. aw says:

    1st Corinthians 13. I’ll order right now.

  17. Anything but Corinthians. That would be a huge mistake.

  18. Colin Britton says:

    “we need to talk”

  19. Drake says:

    We need to talk. Stay edgy!

  20. Anonymous says:

    Corinthians

  21. Leslie says:

    we need to talk!

  22. Lots of opi­nions out there! :-)
    “We Need to Talk” is more your style. I would rather have Corinthians. I would pre-order either one in a heart­beat. The great thing is, both will work for my fiancée.…

  23. Deborah says:

    “we need to talk”

  24. Daniel Edlen says:

    I’m glad you’re con­ti­nuing to do it your­self. Gives me con­fi­dence that I can do it too. I want to keep my pri­ces low as I want all peo­ple pas­sio­nate about music to be able to at least con­si­der buying a piece. I pro­bably won’t raise pri­ces unless I’ve got so many com­mis­sions that I don’t have enough time. Time is more valua­ble in my mind than money. @johntunger’s got me thin­king of doing the affi­liate thing too, which’ll spread the love.
    Peace.
    @vinylart

  25. mark bridges says:

    “We need to talk”, howe­ver, HOPE..i find a job, would fit now.

  26. Anonymous says:

    Corinthians

  27. Len says:

    “We need to talk” is def. more true to the Gaping Void brand, such as it is.
    But there’s something char­ming about appl­ying your style to a Bibli­cal verse I’ve heard at just about every wed­ding I’ve ever been to.
    “Social media spe­cia­list” is a bit too meta for this type of thing.

  28. deannie says:

    Corinthians

  29. JasonG says:

    We Need To Talk please

  30. tina seifert says:

    good to mar­ket your­self, a bet­ter fit for you.
    “we need to talk” is true to your sar­cas­tic charm.
    i like that style of yours best.
    good luck !

  31. fernando says:

    1 Corinthians 13

  32. Kai Davis says:

    We Need to Talk!

  33. Sam says:

    Just to cla­rify I meant num­ber one, “we need to talk” :)

  34. Geoffco says:

    Corinthians. I’ll pay for that. Not so much the other 2.

  35. My vote is for “We need to talk”.

  36. We need to talk, defi­ni­tely! I want one ASAP. Love may be patient, but I’m not… I’m a CDF dammit.

  37. Hugh — We need to talk. Definitely

  38. Summer says:

    “We need to talk“
    My fav.

  39. Corinthians — It’s not what peo­ple expect from you so that would make it even more uni­que. I might buy that one. I might buy the talk one too but …

  40. Harry Joiner says:

    Done: I’ll buy a “1 Corinthians 13″. What a great print. Please make it, even if “We need to talk” wins. Seriously. Just let me know when / where how to send the money.

  41. Eolai says:

    “We Need To Talk” gets my vote, comfortably.

  42. Thomas says:

    Corinthians should be the one…
    That’s something even an “Oldschool Heathen” like myself can get behind.

  43. M3 Sweatt says:

    We need to talk, but then again, I’m par­tial to blue.

  44. The Inter­net chan­ges EVERYTHING. Unless someone puts an end to elec­tri­city and sate­lli­tes, none of us need inter­me­dia­ries bet­ween our­sel­ves and our mar­kets, not in music, lite­ra­ture, art, or other­wise, any lon­ger.
    Fuck ‘em all. Although, what will we do with all those out of work art dea­lers?
    Rock on.

  45. Mark says:

    Corinthians!

  46. Jaimie says:

    ++ “1 Corinthians 13″

  47. feeph says:

    “We need to talk…”

  48. Amrita says:

    Hugh,
    Con­gra­tu­la­tions on the suc­cess of your ven­ture. I think you are on to something with your prints.
    I do want to point out thought that point #6 offers a very limi­ted view of the gallery sys­tem to your rea­ders. Many galle­ries exist because some works are bet­ter seen in per­son than on the web & because some artists do not have the inte­rest or abi­lity to mar­ket them­sel­ves as you do.
    So rather than brush all of us galle­ries with one stroke, maybe you can allow that some of us exist to help con­nect artists with art lovers with all of us taking a com­mer­cial inte­rest so it’s via­ble for both par­ties. It’s no dif­fe­rent than any other mar­ket where there can be bene­fits of having a middle man (i.e. there’s a rea­son why you have a publisher vs. self publishing your book)
    There are some of us out here who don’t look at art as something to show social sta­tus — we truly believe it can change our lives and change the world. I’m sorry if you don’t see it that way.
    –Amrita
    a.k.a. Your friendly neigh­bourhood galle­rist ;)

  49. We Need to Talk — but pur­ple doesn’t work FOR ME

  50. Scott Smith says:

    Corinthians, boss. The ‘type’ nails it for me.

  51. hugh macleod says:

    Amrita, the gallery sys­tem simply doesn’t work for the vast majo­rity of artists. It’s the art world’s worst-kept sec­ret.
    But hey, if a gallery can buck the trend, they have my vote ;-)

  52. Hannah says:

    Corinthians. I already men­tio­ned it in another post, not kno­wing it was up for prin­ting. Corinthians 1000x over. We Need To Talk does have value, but not com­pa­red to Corinthians.

  53. Bill says:

    “1 Corinthians 13″ The blue back­ground doesn’t work for me.

  54. hugh macleod says:

    Hmmmm.… it seems that “We Need To Talk” is inching ahead in the polls.… That being said, it seems there’s enough sup­port for “Corinthians” to warrant an edi­tion of that, as well.
    Thanks for the feed­back, Every­body.
    Keep the com­ments coming, PLEASE… This is all VERY help­ful. Seriously. Rock on.
    Hugh

  55. I wrote a short-short story based on 1 Corinthians 13. It does not end well.

  56. Tim Grahl says:

    Drake: I think it’s inte­res­ting that you think “We need to talk…” is more edgy then quo­ting Corinthians. Com­pa­red to Hugh’s many car­toons, “We need to talk…” is run-of-the-mill gaping­void while Corinthians is far more edgy comparatively.

  57. dp says:

    I think it’s very inte­res­ting that SMS has yet to gar­ner a sin­gle vote. I always felt like that series was very out of touch with where peo­ple were, and made very little sense. Seeing nobody here vali­date that puts me at ease, kno­wing I wasn’t the only one who thought it was coming from pla­net biz­zaro.
    Oh, and “we need to talk” is my vote.

  58. Sarah says:

    I would so love to buy the Corinthians one — I will be watching my inbox intently!!

  59. Oza Meilleur says:

    My vote = “We Need to Talk“
    And I need to mani­fest money in order to buy it.
    BRAVO!

  60. Defi­ni­tely “1 Corinthians 13″ — Its a piece of art that will reso­nate with me both now and in 60 years.

  61. Laura Viberti says:

    Hugh,
    We Need To Talk 32 vs Corinthians 25  — as of right now!
    See ya soon!

  62. +1 for ‘We Need To Talk’

  63. Phil says:

    So…how much would you charge for the ori­gi­nal of any of these?
    I stil think there’s a book to be published about CDF busi­ness and mar­ke­ting.
    Oh, inci­den­tally, you don’t have to be wor­king very hard to be a CDF — you might just have got your balance right.

  64. Juls says:

    For­kin’ beau­ti­ful quote.