February 18, 2007

gifts, god and particle physics

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Two posts to brigh­ten up your day:
1. An elo­quent post from Robert Pat­ter­son about the “Gift Eco­nomy”:

In a Gift Eco­nomy, the highest sta­tus belongs to those who have given the most. But what is most impor­tant, he says, is that the gift must always move. This idea was recently popu­la­ri­zed by the terri­fic little movie called Pay it For­ward.
Every gift is its own reward, but that reward is mul­ti­plied, without limit, when the gift, or any gift, is pas­sed along to others.
A story is a gift. Blogs are gifts. Ideas and insights and teaching and coun­sel are gifts. Con­ver­sa­tions are gifts.

2. Tony Good­son talks about God and par­ticle phy­sics:

Two par­tic­les can com­mu­ni­cate with each other at fas­ter than the speed of light, over con­si­de­ra­ble dis­tance!! The first thing I would ques­tion is the expe­ri­ment. Is what was mea­su­red and obser­ved accu­rate!! If it is then how the hell do we explain entan­gle­ment.
And where does God come into this. Well for me, I’d rather place this stuff which is way out, in the realms of spi­ri­tua­lity for the time being, rather than science, which looks to be strug­gling like a cor­ne­red Crea­tio­nist, on this one.

13 Responses to “gifts, god and particle physics”

  1. Holly says:

    [Re. the car­toon] This kind of stuff might be what’s frea­king out the ladies…

  2. Lucy says:

    Hmmm, disa­gree… i think that would touch someone… i think it shows vul­ne­ra­bi­lity and risk… and the abi­lity to love

  3. Kath says:

    Love it…absolutely love it!

  4. Shripriya says:

    Very intense. I think it rocks!

  5. Michelle says:

    Keep on kee­pin’ it real.

  6. bambi says:

    i’m a big fan of gaping­void, i love every card you make.
    you have fans in mexico!!
    this is a great one!

  7. Cat says:

    Belongs in ther realms of spi­ri­tua­lity for sure :0)

  8. jon kudelka says:

    Every time some bonehead sug­gests it would be bet­ter to say “god did it” rather than work something out, a little angel science dies in science hea­ven.
    …mind you, it would get the scien­tists out to the pub a lot earlier.

  9. John Seiffer says:

    I love the dra­wing. I think the idea of attri­bu­ting to God what science hasn’t yet figu­red out is a sure way to keep peo­ple in the stone age. Science (unlike some reli­gions) doesn’t claim to have all the ans­wers — just some good ques­tions and a use­ful pro­cess for fin­ding ans­wers and then impro­ving or aban­do­ning those ans­wers as the quest reveals more.
    Dis­co­very of things like how blood works were dela­yed for cen­tu­ries by just this type of thin­king. Maybe had the thin­king been dif­fe­rent many more pro­blems like disease and famine would have been wor­ked on sooner.

  10. jon kudelka says:

    Sorry, that should have been “little angel scien­tist”… a little angel sube­di­tor just car­ked it.

  11. KG says:

    Dig the dra­wing. Everybody’s got their take on the love thing…and this is a con­ver­sa­tion, after all.
    Re: the God and par­ticle phy­sics. There’s an enor­mous amount of mys­tery still left in science and spi­ri­tua­lity. Read The Tao of Phy­sics, The Dan­cing Wu Li Mas­ters, or some other quan­tum phy­sics theory, and it can get quite metaphy­si­cal. Why is the Uni­verse so per­fectly orde­red? Yes, there’s the Big Bang, but what star­ted that? And the par­ticle stuff you refe­rence — whoa.
    I agree with John that science has “…some good ques­tions and a use­ful pro­cess for fin­ding ans­wers and then impro­ving or aban­do­ning those ans­wers as the quest reveals more.” I won­der what’s really “out there” — even Eins­tein mused that there might be some great desig­ner out there who had put it all together, but he was also a scien­tist through and through, and nee­ded to see evi­dence and proof.
    But will there be some con­ver­gence point bet­ween science and spi­rit? Hmmm…

  12. ace says:

    “If it is then how the hell do we explain entan­gle­ment.”
    they share all attributes/values.

  13. Gigante says:

    Awe­some. The rhime, the sub­ject, everything.
    Also reaching new fans in Bra­zil.
    Regards from Sao Paulo/BR, hope your suc­cess gets even big­ger, mate!