November 12, 2006

web 2.0 vs bubble 2.0

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Impor­tant post from Joi Ito:

I’m often asked to speak about “Web 2.0″. I per­so­nally think that peo­ple are trying to build Bub­ble 2.0 on top of Web 2.0. Ins­tead of beco­ming a plat­form for the future of the Web, it’s pos­si­ble that Web 2.0 is beco­ming the plat­form for the short-term future of greedy peo­ple. Howe­ver, I do think that it is impor­tant to unders­tand that the recent suc­cess and surge in inno­va­tion on the Web is due to a semi-new set of prin­ci­ples. Part of the prin­ci­ples are a return to fun­da­men­tal prin­ci­ples. The inno­va­tion on the Web and the Inter­net is dri­ven by what David Wein­ber­ger has called “Small Pie­ces Loo­sely Joi­ned” - a net­work crea­ted by small groups wor­king together around open stan­dards. It is and was a com­mu­nity of peo­ple and pro­jects trying to con­nect to each other.

Loic adds his thoughts:

Dif­fe­ren­ces bet­ween web 2.0 and bub­ble 2.0 ?
For me, the big thing about web 2.0 is the ama­teur revo­lu­tion.
Easy to publish
2.0: any­body can publish its con­tent text, pho­tos and videos very easily, as easy as sen­ding an email.
1.0: was too com­pli­ca­ted, home page buil­ders, hos­ting and too much html code. News is sim­pli­city.
Dis­co­ve­ra­ble
2.0 ama­teurs can get their con­tent known easily and for some of them reach a broad audience thanks to the effi­ciency of search engi­nes ena­bling the long tail.
1.0 search engi­nes were sen­ding most of of their audience to the mass news sites and already known brands such as CNN and the like. Now ama­teur con­tent has the same voice or even a lou­der one in some cases.
Con­trol of your own data
2.0 your con­tent belongs to you (like in Second Life) and you can export it or get it back easily (like in Flickr, Type­pad)
1.0 when you upload your data the sites own it and don’t let you get it back.

I won­der what Steve Gill­mor would say? Or Doc, Cala­ca­nis, Arring­ton, Far­ber etc. N.B. Last night was the Gill­mor Gang’s last broad­cast. Kinda intense to be on it last night, I thought. Though I have to say, I loved being on it over the last few months. You can lis­ten to it here. Rock on, Steve! And thanks to all the other guest for many months of very sti­mu­la­ting, spon­ta­neous thought. I grew much richer from par­ti­ci­pa­ting on it, and it will be sorely mis­sed. Amen.
[Bonus Link:] What was the big­gest news at the recent Web 2.0 Sum­mit? “Web 3.0″, of course. Dan Far­ber reports.

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6 Responses to “web 2.0 vs bubble 2.0”

  1. Rob La Gesse says:

    Hugh — love you comics — keep them coming!
    I agree with most of what your wrote about Web 2.0 — except for the part about your abi­lity to “take your data back”. There are VERY few Web Com­pa­nies that allow you to take data back — you may be able to delete it (super­fi­cially, although very, very few let you truly delete it).
    True por­ta­bi­lity would be something like me being able to (with a sim­ple click or two) move my blog from Blog­ger to MSN Space, or to Word­Press. Or to com­ple­tely remove it from all of them — inc­lu­ding Search Engi­nes.
    Their isn’t a mains­tream Web 2 site that I know of that let’s me decide, “I’m out of here, give me my data, and for­get I ever visi­ted you”. And they should — if the con­tent I create is truly mine. But rea­lis­ti­cally it isn’t — not on “most” Web sites. Most of the Terms of Use poli­cies require I give my con­tent away — I give up my rights to it in exchange for “using the ser­vice”.
    No — we are nowhere near to “con­tro­lling our own data“
    Rob

  2. hugh macleod says:

    Rob, this is why I have my own dedi­ca­ted ser­ver for gaping­void, even if it would me much chea­per if I hos­ted it on Word­Press or wha­te­ver.
    It makes me feel more in control.

  3. Sheamus says:

    OUTSTANDING post Hugh!
    And thanks for the link to the book!!

  4. Marti says:

    I have full con­trol over all the len­ses I build at Squi­doo (inc­lu­ding “Who’s Hugh?”) If for some frea­kish rea­son, I deci­ded I didn’t want them there any­more, I could delete every sin­gle one.
    Someone else could build their own lens on the same sub­ject of course, but what I have built is mine alone.

  5. this the same loic run­ning a con­fe­rence called LeWeb3???

  6. Hugh,
    Great stuff. I would add ver­sa­ti­lity to this list as well. In other words, having the abi­lity to con­tri­bute, view, edit, etc. any infor­ma­tion from anywhere with any device. Isn’t this what really makes it spe­cial? Keep up the good work!