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		<title>By: Alice_no</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2006/10/15/the-cleopatra-effect/#comment-14948</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice_no</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Halo!
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2006/10/15/the-cleopatra-effect/#comment-14947</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, this reminds me of the tendency of consultants, especially, and sometimes others who are so desperate for the business that they hardly hear what they&#039;re committing to before screaming, &quot;Yes, yes, we can do that, too!&quot;  Often, before the check has even cleared they&#039;re thinking, &quot;Oh shit, what did I get myself into?!&quot;
I would say, in my case, half of such engagements resulted in beautiful music (&#039;cause I&#039;m so motivated by pressure) and half in, well, near-fatal flogging.
Live and learn, we do.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, this reminds me of the tendency of consultants, especially, and sometimes others who are so desperate for the business that they hardly hear what they’re committing to before screaming, “Yes, yes, we can do that, too!”  Often, before the check has even cleared they’re thinking, “Oh shit, what did I get myself into?!“<br />
I would say, in my case, half of such engagements resulted in beautiful music (’cause I’m so motivated by pressure) and half in, well, near-fatal flogging.<br />
Live and learn, we do.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel K</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2006/10/15/the-cleopatra-effect/#comment-14946</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. As a greenhorn it took me two dedicated nights to find out everything about corporate blogging (blogs are easy to find and well connected, duh!). So it does not need a pro consultant who gets a sh...load of money for it.
2. It NEEDS somebody who´s blogging constantly and honestly - and who has at least some kind of message. I think you can give the poor to-be corporate bloggers guidelines on how to be understandable and somehow cool. The problem is: They need freedom &amp; trust to be fast as the blogworld is. And people see if the PR checked the spelling first. In the end, they can spoil more than achieving anything.
3. What the hell did I want to say? About Cleo: If you ever make ONE customer your ONLY queen, you´ve done something wrong right at the start...
Yup. Thanks for being an idol combining sucess AND coolness.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. As a greenhorn it took me two dedicated nights to find out everything about corporate blogging (blogs are easy to find and well connected, duh!). So it does not need a pro consultant who gets a sh…load of money for it.<br />
2. It NEEDS somebody who´s blogging constantly and honestly — and who has at least some kind of message. I think you can give the poor to-be corporate bloggers guidelines on how to be understandable and somehow cool. The problem is: They need freedom &amp; trust to be fast as the blogworld is. And people see if the PR checked the spelling first. In the end, they can spoil more than achieving anything.<br />
3. What the hell did I want to say? About Cleo: If you ever make ONE customer your ONLY queen, you´ve done something wrong right at the start…<br />
Yup. Thanks for being an idol combining sucess AND coolness.</p>
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		<title>By: Cassie</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2006/10/15/the-cleopatra-effect/#comment-14945</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are amazing and I am currently doing a english paper on one of your cartoons. I really like this blog though, because it&#039;s not only funny but also true to the core. Thank you!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are amazing and I am currently doing a english paper on one of your cartoons. I really like this blog though, because it’s not only funny but also true to the core. Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Saira</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2006/10/15/the-cleopatra-effect/#comment-14944</link>
		<dc:creator>Saira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugh MacLeod, I absolutely love your cartoons. Absolutely random drop-in. :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugh MacLeod, I absolutely love your cartoons. Absolutely random drop-in. <img src='http://gapingvoid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul Woodhouse</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2006/10/15/the-cleopatra-effect/#comment-14943</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Woodhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to bide by the &#039;Carry on Cleopatra&#039; rule:
If they look like Amanda Barrie circa 1964 I&#039;ll do anything.
I&#039;m just getting to the stage where I&#039;m getting asked frequently to apply &#039;The Tinbasher Effect&#039; to other small businesses.
As if I&#039;m Paul Daniels.
I then give them the passive/aggressive Dragon&#039;s Den  interview technique if they sound like they have potential.
And if they do have potential I won&#039;t touch it unless I get quite a share in the online side of things and I have control.
I obviously get turned down quite a bit.
Thanks for the focus pointer. I&#039;m just going to tell a prospective client to fuck off.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to bide by the ‘Carry on Cleopatra’ rule:<br />
If they look like Amanda Barrie circa 1964 I’ll do anything.<br />
I’m just getting to the stage where I’m getting asked frequently to apply ‘The Tinbasher Effect’ to other small businesses.<br />
As if I’m Paul Daniels.<br />
I then give them the passive/aggressive Dragon’s Den  interview technique if they sound like they have potential.<br />
And if they do have potential I won’t touch it unless I get quite a share in the online side of things and I have control.<br />
I obviously get turned down quite a bit.<br />
Thanks for the focus pointer. I’m just going to tell a prospective client to fuck off.</p>
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		<title>By: colin kennedy</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2006/10/15/the-cleopatra-effect/#comment-14942</link>
		<dc:creator>colin kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The stand out thing about Cleopatra&#039;s comment here is that she&#039;s behaving like a fucking moron and is only out-shone by the stupidity of the harpist.
Unless of course she is laying a trap for the obsequious little brown-noser in which case he deserves everything he gets.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stand out thing about Cleopatra’s comment here is that she’s behaving like a fucking moron and is only out-shone by the stupidity of the harpist.<br />
Unless of course she is laying a trap for the obsequious little brown-noser in which case he deserves everything he gets.</p>
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		<title>By: David Burn</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2006/10/15/the-cleopatra-effect/#comment-14941</link>
		<dc:creator>David Burn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Power corrupts.
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		<title>By: GaryV</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2006/10/15/the-cleopatra-effect/#comment-14940</link>
		<dc:creator>GaryV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on! and this not only applies to consultants but also to employees who think outside the box and take a risk on behalf of their companies.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on! and this not only applies to consultants but also to employees who think outside the box and take a risk on behalf of their companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Greer</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2006/10/15/the-cleopatra-effect/#comment-14939</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Greer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Peter Reed gives me an idea for a cartoon, Hugh:
&quot;Just because I don&#039;t give a damn
doesn&#039;t mean I don&#039;t care.&quot;
Love it!
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“Just because I don’t give a damn<br />
doesn’t mean I don’t care.“<br />
Love it!</p>
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		<title>By: Adriana</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2006/10/15/the-cleopatra-effect/#comment-14938</link>
		<dc:creator>Adriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, spot on!
As someone who soils one&#039;s hands with corporates, I totally agree with Hugh. The trick is to do that on your own terms, especially if they come to you. Define the conditions and &#039;reframe&#039; the engagement. Don&#039;t be a consultant, that&#039;s just another &#039;c-word&#039;. Tell them upfront, what&#039;s going to happen, e.g. my &#039;tagline&#039; is: Imploding companies, one silo at a time. If they still hire me, there is hope. :)
In my mind, I don&#039;t deal with corporates, I deal with individuals working within them. They are also people, just like you and me, sometimes they just need to be de-borged. :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, spot on!<br />
As someone who soils one’s hands with corporates, I totally agree with Hugh. The trick is to do that on your own terms, especially if they come to you. Define the conditions and ‘reframe’ the engagement. Don’t be a consultant, that’s just another ‘c-word’. Tell them upfront, what’s going to happen, e.g. my ‘tagline’ is: Imploding companies, one silo at a time. If they still hire me, there is hope. <img src='http://gapingvoid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
In my mind, I don’t deal with corporates, I deal with individuals working within them. They are also people, just like you and me, sometimes they just need to be de-borged. <img src='http://gapingvoid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2006/10/15/the-cleopatra-effect/#comment-14937</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this seems to me to be the core issue with blogging in 2006. Couple of years ago  &quot;authenticity&quot; was the defining element that separated a blog entry from a press release. The explosion in blogging consultants blurs that separation. Blogging has got more to do with changing the way you do business than finessing your corporate persona. Creating the illusion that you care is not enough.
PR man - How do I know that you are authentic?
Blogger -  I say &quot;fuck&quot; a lot
hehe
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this seems to me to be the core issue with blogging in 2006. Couple of years ago  “authenticity” was the defining element that separated a blog entry from a press release. The explosion in blogging consultants blurs that separation. Blogging has got more to do with changing the way you do business than finessing your corporate persona. Creating the illusion that you care is not enough.<br />
PR man — How do I know that you are authentic?<br />
Blogger —  I say “fuck” a lot<br />
hehe</p>
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		<title>By: Veda K</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2006/10/15/the-cleopatra-effect/#comment-14936</link>
		<dc:creator>Veda K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps a cleverer reply on the courtier&#039;s behalf would have been that while he was a good musician, he would make a lousy teacher.
Love your work, by the way.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps a cleverer reply on the courtier’s behalf would have been that while he was a good musician, he would make a lousy teacher.<br />
Love your work, by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: James Thomson</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2006/10/15/the-cleopatra-effect/#comment-14935</link>
		<dc:creator>James Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trouble with a lot of &#039;ongoing&#039; corporate consulting services is corporates require both the creative clever stuff/ideas etc and the regular reports about how clever/effective the ideas they are being sold are. The problem is often that the guys get so good at reporting to the client how clever they are they take their eye of the ball and forget to be clever creatively.
In the Cleopatra scenario the courtier may need a clever reporting assistant if he is either a poor teacher or she a hopeless harp pupil. &quot;Oh that sounds so good your majesty - every day you improve so much&quot; gushes the reporting assistant as the clumsy diva produces yet more gut wrenching screeches.
So many consulting firms tell their clients what they want to hear, not what they need to hear (ie you mister client are a dumb, suited, power crazed, phsycho). I think Gapingvoid consultancy would be great. Hugh might do a great job of telling his clients where to get off as the reality of old power bases crumbling started to dawn on them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble with a lot of ‘ongoing’ corporate consulting services is corporates require both the creative clever stuff/ideas etc and the regular reports about how clever/effective the ideas they are being sold are. The problem is often that the guys get so good at reporting to the client how clever they are they take their eye of the ball and forget to be clever creatively.<br />
In the Cleopatra scenario the courtier may need a clever reporting assistant if he is either a poor teacher or she a hopeless harp pupil. “Oh that sounds so good your majesty — every day you improve so much” gushes the reporting assistant as the clumsy diva produces yet more gut wrenching screeches.<br />
So many consulting firms tell their clients what they want to hear, not what they need to hear (ie you mister client are a dumb, suited, power crazed, phsycho). I think Gapingvoid consultancy would be great. Hugh might do a great job of telling his clients where to get off as the reality of old power bases crumbling started to dawn on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Drapre</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2006/10/15/the-cleopatra-effect/#comment-14934</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Drapre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve made a living out of being snide. Bless your soul.
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