Comments on: abusive editors and meagre paychecks

By: Dennis Howlett

Dennis Howlett — Sat, 22 Apr 2006 03:08:51 +0000

Slow is good — gives everyone time to figure out this stuff — anyone who says they’ve got it bottomed is telling porkie pies. I don’t think we’ve even begun to figure out the business models. Not by a country mile. Bonus: Go see Winer’s interview with amanda Congdon at Rocketboom — I don’t usually have time for him but on this occasion, he’s bang on the money. IM (not very)HO

By: Jesse Skinner

Jesse Skinner — Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:34:56 +0000

It amazes me how slowly the paradigm is shifting. The Internet has given us a forum like none other in history. And here’s how most people interpret it:
“Blogs? That’s like magazines that you read on a computer screen? Do they charge for subscribers? No???? Well I don’t know if they’ll survive on advertising alone!“
Nobody realises that people are just contributing to the commons for the sake of getting information out there, improving the world, etc. People who do this will be recognized for their expertise and be rewarded appropriately. Those who are just in it for the money are doomed in the first place.

By: Ric

Ric — Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:08:56 +0000

If Dennis hadn’t shown up here, I would have pointed to him — check out his link if you haven’t already — Dennis’ blog is a commercial endeavour, but only because he is a thoughtful commentator on things that are important to him professionally, and the revenue-enhancing is mostly indirect.

By: Dennis Howlett

Dennis Howlett — Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:49:33 +0000

I listened to the Gillmore Gang thing as well. In the US, they are still very much rooted in the volume of eyeballs= value of ads on your site thing. But the indirect model does work - often for others as well - including the little guys who are trying to do new things: see: http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=713

By: tish grier

tish grier — Thu, 20 Apr 2006 04:26:51 +0000

Hi Hugh…was poking around the blogosphere and came across this entry. Was going to write on it myself this afternoon, but you pretty much summed up everything I was going to say.
I really can’t complain–blogging’s been pretty good to me (I got to be on a panel at SXSW this year, editor of the Media Hub for Corante, made it to a bunch of conferences, met a lot of great people, chairing at another upcoming conference.) The money I make blogging, along with other freelance writing gigs, is enough for me to qualify for foodstamps and state-sponsored health care. How glamourous and exciting!
So you’re right–blogging’s an interesting way to get *somewhere*. For most of us, at this point, it’s a vehicle, not an end destination.

By: Marshall Kirkpatrick

Marshall Kirkpatrick — Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:03:50 +0000

Hugh, I think you hit this real well in your Gillmore Gang conversation.
I blog for Winc. not for the money but the exposure is awesome. (http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com is my gig with them)

By: Jason

Jason — Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:03:26 +0000

very good point that blogs can be an amazing marketing/selling tool for an offline revenue stream.… we should have included that in the debate!

By: Mr. K.

Mr. K. — Thu, 20 Apr 2006 02:42:46 +0000

The people most poised to take advantage of advertising money have already been blogging for a while now. I say this not to discourage anybody, but if you do a job primarialy for the money, it’s not likely to satisfy. I hope most bloggers continue to blog because they love writing and have something to say. When the blogspace fills with folks hoping to make money, we’ll have a lot of crappy blogs filled with ads talking about things to buy. At that will be bad for blogs in general. I read blogs because I want to read the average joe’s thoughts, not shill for a corporation.

By: Nick Douglas

Nick Douglas — Thu, 20 Apr 2006 02:04:36 +0000

Wait, it’s not abusive editors and meager paychecks? Denton, can we have a word?

By: Alvin

Alvin — Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:47:53 +0000

After passing the last 7 months hoping to make my first million off Adsense, I’ve realised you’re right. The way to go isn’t to suck up through advertising, the way to go is to build my own global microbrand.
Thanks for the inspiration and insights! I’ll keep working on the Alvin Soon Global Microbrand

By: john t unger

john t unger — Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:29:31 +0000

Maybe the confusion really stems from the desire to get something for nothing

By: Hugh MacLeod

Hugh MacLeod — Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:01:04 +0000

Yes Craig, words like “freedom” and “personal sovereignty” come into it.

By: Craig McGinty

Craig McGinty — Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:39:33 +0000

Whilst people measure success by the amount of money in their bank account, I think you will be spending a lot of time explaining how using a blog can create much more ‘value’ for an individual.
I think the bloggers at Weblogs Inc. probably see the value of their work both in the money they earn, but more importantly in the freedom they enjoy.
Who wants to be stuck in traffic for three hours a day, to sit in an office you can’t wait to get out of?