April 12, 2006

let’s open a bar

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OK, so I guess my second ques­tion of the day is: To those peo­ple down­loa­ding the new high-res car­toons; do you think this makes you more likely to buy a bottle of Stormhoek [at least try it once], if you ever came across it? Or is my mar­ke­ting plan just a lot of “Whist­lin’ Dixie”?
Again, just curious etc.

34 Responses to “let’s open a bar”

  1. Robert Bruce says:

    No. Not for me. To the two are dis­tinct sepe­ra­tes. Your car­toons are a you and so IMHO are a sought after pro­duct in them­sel­ves. The wine is not you. It is Stormhoek from Welling­ton, Cape, S Africa and can’t be lin­ked to your car­toons. Non blog­gers will not con­nect the two and will be rel­ying on inte­rrupt or super­mar­ket gon­dola pla­ce­ment to try to per­suade them to buy a bottle or two.
    I can asso­ciate the two and will buy Stormhoek more out of curio­sity than anything. I’ll buy your car­toons because I can see them and I like them. I’ll have to part with cash for Stormhoek, an unk­nown pro­duct and might not like it. Hope this makes sense & helps in a minis­cule way.

  2. Ann Handley says:

    I like your stuff and your “indi­rect mar­ke­ting” concept…so I’ll look for Stormhoek wine next time I’m brow­sing the wine store shel­ves. Then again, I drink wine.
    Is your art on the Stormhoek label?

  3. G. says:

    can i have both?

  4. Cody Stanley says:

    Eagerly awai­ting US release, and rela­ted online direc­tory. Has your mar­ke­ting plan wor­ked, ect.? Well, I’ll be trying the wine not because I like your “mar­ke­ting con­cept”, but because I’m inte­res­ted, curious(the mar­ke­ting wor­ked). I have to agree with Robert Bruce though, they are two dis­tinct expe­rien­ces and no car­toon, no mat­ter how much I enjoy it, is going to make me drink a wine I don’t like.

  5. Ryan says:

    I haven’t down­loa­ded any of the high-res car­toons, but the fact that you have put your name behind the pro­duct gives me enough con­fi­dence to pick up a bottle if I ever see it here in Canada.

  6. Ric says:

    I’ll drink Stormhoek (if it ever makes it down here to Aus­tra­lia, and if it cuts the mus­tard in the midst of plenty!) because I’ve read about it here. Others won’t neces­sa­rily make the con­nec­tion bet­ween car­toons and wine unless the car­toons are on the label (which is a good idea BTW).

  7. Robert Bruce says:

    Yes. A label with your car­toon will sell the wine like hot­ca­kes. Do limi­ted runs of a par­ti­cu­lar car­toon. Num­ber them etc etc.
    Make buying Stormhoek a truly uni­que experience.

  8. andy says:

    Your word get the first bottle in my hands. After that, it’s up to the wine…

  9. Hugh MacLeod says:

    That’s sort of how I see it too, Andy. Obviously, I wouldn’t expect some­body to buy it (a second time) if it weren’t up to snuff.

  10. Jason says:

    I’ll second Andy’s com­ments. I might not have pic­ked up a bottle of Stormhoek without your endor­se­ment, but would be willing to give it a try now. I’m not sure that the hi-res ima­ges have any direct influence on that deci­sion, but I do find that I get a bet­ter feel for your ima­ges in the lar­ger pic­ture, and do appre­ciate your making them avai­la­ble.
    I know that I only tried the various flying dog beers here in the sta­tes because of Steadman’s art on the label..

  11. Christopher says:

    I’ve been collec­ting car­toons to take to the photo prin­ter and have prints made of. Now, I only have to con­vince them of the Crea­tive Com­mons use license.
    If I were old enough, I’d find myself a bottle of Stormhoek and give it a whirl. Or you could ship me one ;)

  12. Kate says:

    As Andy and Jason say, because of your men­tio­ning it, I will try it now and see if I like it. I love wine and am always loo­king for some new, great wine. I’ve also been to Southern Africa and the wine there is quite res­pec­ta­ble, IMHO.

  13. davidcoe... says:

    I’ve tried seve­ral bott­les just to make sure I wasn’t mis­ta­ken about it the first time — so I guess it’s wor­king!
    I think your car­toons would be a good piece of inte­rup­tion in them­sel­ves on the bott­les — espe­cially if you can come up with suf­fi­ciently edgy mes­sa­ges — get peo­ple to con­nect with you after the purchase in a clo­sed micro-brand loop kind of way?

  14. Andrew says:

    I was already loo­king for­ward to trying stormhook… and maybe even being able to spell it… before you chan­ged the rules about the cartoons.

  15. Your indi­rect mar­ke­ting approach will get me to try Stormhoek (if it ever comes to Canada)…
    …but will it make me a repeat cus­to­mer? Only if it is good enough. You have ope­ned the door for me to peek in. If its a sham­bles inside, I won’t stay long.

  16. David says:

    I keep won­de­ring about your reach. You are get­ting your mes­sage out to this audience loud and clear (though since I do not imbibe, it is lost on me).
    Actually, I haven’t been able to see how the “indi­rect” part of the mar­ke­ting works. You allu­ded to this in your “ori­gi­nal” Stormhoek post. This must be the key to your mar­ke­ting plan, but it is just not visi­ble to me (though it is pro­bably on the end of my nose, I just don’t see it…).

  17. Nia says:

    I would buy one bottle of red wine if it was avai­la­ble in this cor­ner of the world, because you’ve made me curious. I would only buy a second bottle if the first one was abso­lu­tely exce­llent, defi­ni­tely bet­ter than local wines. Spa­niards are pro­gram­med to des­pise foreign wines, so that’s saying a lot.

  18. Sean says:

    IMHO, the fact that I come here and read your stuff is enough for me to pick up one bottle. Echoing ever­yone else, I would not buy another bottle if it wasnt good. What you CAN do though, is on the lables of the bottle, put the link to the blog. There you can build a sense of com­mu­nity and com­pany loyalty to the drin­kers. Kind of simi­lar to an inside joke, where peo­ple would be able to asso­ciate your art with the wine. Obviously, if they like it enough, you can create a forum where peo­ple can be with like-minded peo­ple. Love the blog btw.

  19. Actually, Hugh, I have been noting the car­toons I want in Feed­De­mon. Once I have a cou­ple, I will get them prin­ted out and put them on dis­play in either my office or hum­ble abode.
    As for the Stormhoek, once I find out when it hits the sta­tes – spe­ci­fi­cally, Bal­ti­more, MD – I will defi­ni­tely give it a whirl. As Andy said above, from there, the wine will have to prove itself. Nonethe­less, I will try anything once.

  20. Hugh MacLeod says:

    I would not buy another bottle if it wasn’t good, either…

  21. robert says:

    The Hugh con­nec­tion would make me notice Stormhoek if I saw it in a shop (don’t know if they sell it here in Swe­den). I might buy it if it were below my price point, and I’d be a lot more likely to do so if it had a Hugh label. But the story you’re telling about fresh­ness sounds to my oenophile-for-decades ears like a crock.

  22. yahaira says:

    Ive down­loa­ded a few of your ima­ges and I must admit that if I ever see Stormhoek in Phi­la­delphia I’ll give it a try once. Then make a firm deci­sion afterwards.

  23. hugh macleod says:

    “oenophile-for-decades”
    exactly.

  24. _Lasar says:

    It goes a bit like this: I enjoy your car­toons and wri­ting. Because of that I have res­pect for you and your opi­nion. Because you endorse Stormhoek, I might try it.
    Even though I’m not a wine per­son, really.
    Will Stormhoek make it to cen­tral Europe any time soon? I would ick up a bottle just to see what you are on about (and a gaping­void car­toon on the label would make me buy it even more certainly).

  25. petr says:

    i did not down­loa­ded any of your car­tons yet but i plan to do it.
    if this wine would be reacha­ble anwhere close i would defi­ni­tely try it.

  26. Jeff says:

    I’ll try the wine because I enjoy your blog and you’ve tal­ked about it. Of course if the wine blows I’ll spam you back to 1999. ‚-)
    I don’t per­so­nally take advan­tage of you making the car­toons avai­la­ble in hi-res for­mat — BUT I really like the idea that you’ve made them freely avai­la­ble.
    In a way I guess I see it as wal­king your own talk.

  27. Not being a fan of car­toons except for the New Yor­ker car­toons they have no effect on me and cer­tainly wouldn’t cause me to buy a pro­duct. In fact, I find them somewhat of a turn off. What is amu­sing to one per­son may be insul­ting to another. One must be cau­tious in using humor in advertising.

  28. Alvin says:

    I’d give one a go if I see it, if only because you kept tal­king about it and that makes me curious. The Hugh Con­nec­tion is potent :)

  29. adam says:

    i’d try it if i could find it — do you sell it in aus?

  30. Tom Hamshere says:

    If I see it, I’ll pro­bably try it. It’s done well enough through word of mouth mar­ke­ting that there must be some subs­tance behind the hype.

  31. Hugh MacLeod says:

    “Not being a fan of car­toons except for the New Yor­ker car­toons they have no effect on me and cer­tainly wouldn’t cause me to buy a pro­duct. In fact, I find them somewhat of a turn off. What is amu­sing to one per­son may be insul­ting to another. One must be cau­tious in using humor in adver­ti­sing.”
    Wow, that should be a car­toon in itself. Or is that just me? ;-)

  32. Ed says:

    I might buy one, but just for the ‘what the fuck’ novelty.
    In truth, I sit through the stuff about yachts / wine / suits to see the car­toons, not to be part of some grand mic­ro­brand revo­lu­tion.
    Wine is wine, it has a fla­vor (for bet­ter or worse), there’s really not much to ‘con­verse’ about.
    I think your quid pro quo appeal – I release the ima­ges, you give the wine the tie­brea­ker when you’re just grab­bing off the shelf – is more com­pe­lling; I’m more exci­ted about pro­vi­ding indi­rect pay­ment for ser­vi­ces ren­de­red than ‘viral mar­ke­ting’.
    Then again, maybe I don’t ‘get it’ :-)

  33. Henry says:

    I’ve always saved my favo­rite car­toon of yours to my PC. The high-res pics are very nice, thank you.
    Your mar­ke­ting plan is wor­king as rein­for­ce­ment to me, since I’ve want to buy a bottle of Stormhoek already. When are they avai­la­ble in NY?
    I will say this, I’ve spread the word of your wine to all my friends, so when it does become avai­la­ble to us it will be purcha­sed. We’re wai­ting patiently in NYC & LI. Next week whilst tra­ve­ling ups­tate I’ll be recom­men­ding it there too.

  34. jet says:

    I’m no more likely to buy it now than before.
    The rea­son I read gaping­void is that you’re a mar­ke­ting guy who seems to know a rather lot about the sort of niche mar­ke­ting I’m inte­res­ted in these days. What do you know from wine? (What do I know from wine, for that mat­ter?)
    It’s pro­bably bet­ter to say that I wouldn’t buy Stormhoek because I read gaping­void; howe­ver there’s a good chance I’d try it if Stormhoek dona­ted a few bott­les for an event I was atten­ding. Their acting on your advice is more likely to get me to try it than your telling me your advice to them.
    Are you selling wine on gaping­void or are you selling Hugh?