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February 7, 2006

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Euan says it bet­ter than I can:

OK, how much does it piss you off that you can’t track com­ments you have left on other people’s blogs?
Lau­rent, who orga­ni­sed LiftO6, has just shown us CoCom­ment, the coo­lest thing since sli­ced bread.

I have just chris­te­ned CoCom­ment as “Tech­no­rati for Com­men­ters.”
The inte­res­ting thing is, you don’t need your own blog to use it. Secondly, the star­tup was ini­tially fun­ded by Swiss­com, a Telco [an industry not exactly well known for pulling off this type of enter­prise].
Currently it’s in Beta. To use it, you first need to be sent an invi­ta­tion code from a current user.
[Tri­via:] Appa­rently this enter­prise was hea­vily ins­pi­red by Jeff Jar­vis’ post, “Who wants to own con­tent?”

Dis­tri­bu­tion is not king.
Con­tent is not king.
Con­ver­sa­tion is the king­dom.
The war is over and the army that wasn

26 Responses to “cocomment”

1. Jacob B says:

   February 7, 2006 at 2:15 pm

   I think the idea is “Tech­no­rati for Com­men­ters.” and the best thing since sli­ced bread. But I have yet to see it func­tion pro­perly. I tried to use to track a com­ment on my pod­cast ( http://boetter.dk/podcast/ ) and it dis­pla­yed my pod­cast as TechC­runch as first, then got it right later on. It still doesn’t know the name of the blog­post I was com­men­ting on, it just says (untit­led).
   Further­more I used it to track a dis­cus­sion going on at another blog, it dis­pla­yed right, but I was only get­ting the com­ments I wrote and trac­ked back to coCom­ment. Is that the inten­tion? Will every­body have to use coCom­ment in order for the sys­tem for work? Then I am not sure if I like the idea really.
2. Jacob B says:

   February 7, 2006 at 2:15 pm

   I think the idea is “Tech­no­rati for Com­men­ters.” and the best thing since sli­ced bread. But I have yet to see it func­tion pro­perly. I tried to use to track a com­ment on my pod­cast ( http://boetter.dk/podcast/ ) and it dis­pla­yed my pod­cast as TechC­runch as first, then got it right later on. It still doesn’t know the name of the blog­post I was com­men­ting on, it just says (untit­led).
   Further­more I used it to track a dis­cus­sion going on at another blog, it dis­pla­yed right, but I was only get­ting the com­ments I wrote and trac­ked back to coCom­ment. Is that the inten­tion? Will every­body have to use coCom­ment in order for the sys­tem for work? Then I am not sure if I like the idea really.
3. Jacob B says:

   February 7, 2006 at 2:15 pm

   I think the idea is “Tech­no­rati for Com­men­ters.” and the best thing since sli­ced bread. But I have yet to see it func­tion pro­perly. I tried to use to track a com­ment on my pod­cast ( http://boetter.dk/podcast/ ) and it dis­pla­yed my pod­cast as TechC­runch as first, then got it right later on. It still doesn’t know the name of the blog­post I was com­men­ting on, it just says (untit­led).
   Further­more I used it to track a dis­cus­sion going on at another blog, it dis­pla­yed right, but I was only get­ting the com­ments I wrote and trac­ked back to coCom­ment. Is that the inten­tion? Will every­body have to use coCom­ment in order for the sys­tem for work? Then I am not sure if I like the idea really.
4. Jacob B says:

   February 7, 2006 at 2:15 pm

   I think the idea is “Tech­no­rati for Com­men­ters.” and the best thing since sli­ced bread. But I have yet to see it func­tion pro­perly. I tried to use to track a com­ment on my pod­cast ( http://boetter.dk/podcast/ ) and it dis­pla­yed my pod­cast as TechC­runch as first, then got it right later on. It still doesn’t know the name of the blog­post I was com­men­ting on, it just says (untit­led).
   Further­more I used it to track a dis­cus­sion going on at another blog, it dis­pla­yed right, but I was only get­ting the com­ments I wrote and trac­ked back to coCom­ment. Is that the inten­tion? Will every­body have to use coCom­ment in order for the sys­tem for work? Then I am not sure if I like the idea really.
5. Jacob B says:

   February 7, 2006 at 2:15 pm

   I think the idea is “Tech­no­rati for Com­men­ters.” and the best thing since sli­ced bread. But I have yet to see it func­tion pro­perly. I tried to use to track a com­ment on my pod­cast ( http://boetter.dk/podcast/ ) and it dis­pla­yed my pod­cast as TechC­runch as first, then got it right later on. It still doesn’t know the name of the blog­post I was com­men­ting on, it just says (untit­led).
   Further­more I used it to track a dis­cus­sion going on at another blog, it dis­pla­yed right, but I was only get­ting the com­ments I wrote and trac­ked back to coCom­ment. Is that the inten­tion? Will every­body have to use coCom­ment in order for the sys­tem for work? Then I am not sure if I like the idea really.
6. Barry Dorrans says:

   February 7, 2006 at 2:23 pm

   Then there’s the fact that it has to code itselfs for each blog host/type. So stan­dards like com­ment RSS are esce­wed and repla­ced by a quick and dirty hack to edit the form you sub­mit when you write com­ments. Not exactly sca­la­ble, nor easy to dis­co­ver.
   Now if they add a published API any blog host can use it would be a good start.
   Heck Hugh it doesn’t even work *here*
7. hugh macleod says:

   February 7, 2006 at 2:58 pm

   Calm down, Barry, it’s still in Beta
8. Steph says:

   February 7, 2006 at 4:17 pm

   Whee! great to know you’re on the boat
9. Andrew says:

   February 7, 2006 at 5:14 pm

   I didn’t have to get an invi­ta­tion from a current user (and I don’t have an invi­ta­tion to give away). I just reques­ted an account via the web­site, and soon got an invite email.
   Best thing since sli­ced bread? I think it’s the best thing since… the breadk­nife that only works on cer­tain types of bread. But maybe that’s what a beta breadk­nife has to be like.
   I just tried to coCom­ment this com­ment, and was told that this (gaping­void) page isn’t sup­por­ted. See what I mean?
10. Mike says:

    February 7, 2006 at 6:23 pm

    On a pos­sibly unre­la­ted note– one of the rea­sons I never com­ment in blogs is because there is no threa­ding like in a mes­sage board. Perhaps I’m spoi­led by Live­Jour­nal but I like being noti­fied when peo­ple are res­pon­ding to my res­pon­ses.
    That seems more like con­ver­sa­tion than pos­ting a mes­sage at the end of someone’s blog entry and then trying to figure out what peo­ple are saying to whom.
    Pro­bably beyond the scope of this pro­ject but I’ve always felt com­men­ting in gene­ral has been kind of a neglec­ted fea­ture. Anything to push that for­ward sounds great.
11. Patrick Dodds says:

    February 7, 2006 at 8:54 pm

    I’ve been trying to get it to work for a cou­ple of days now — not much luck yet. A great idea though and I only hope it gets bet­ter so that it has a wide appeal.
12. Alan Gutierrez says:

    February 7, 2006 at 9:07 pm

    Invite me! alan@blogometer.com Invite me!
    Beg, gro­vel, etc.
13. Keith says:

    February 7, 2006 at 11:15 pm

    I’ve been pla­ying around with it off and on today. So far I’ve run into a cou­ple of glitchy things, but ove­rall I think it’s going to rock once they get all the bugs wor­ked out. Boo-ya to the deve­lo­pers, I think it will be a hit.
    (it doesn’t much like the gaping­void com­ments page)
14. Steve Griffiths says:

    February 7, 2006 at 11:47 pm

    And so a new hie­rarchy is crea­ted by the peo­ple who des­pi­sed the old one.
    “Meet the new boss: same as the old boss” I think Rodge said
15. Tom Reynolds says:

    February 8, 2006 at 3:11 am

    Once they get Halos­can wor­king it’ll have a lot more uti­lity. I’m really inte­res­ted in how far they take this.
    Could be 06’s ‘killer app’.
16. Alan Gutierrez says:

    February 8, 2006 at 3:33 am

    Hey, there. Yes com­ment trac­king is a killer app. There is a need to have peo­ple magange their own con­ver­sa­tions. There is also an impor­tant krewe of con­tri­bu­tors that works the com­ments of thier favo­rite blogs.
    I’ve met met peo­ple right here, in the com­ments of gapingvoid.com. There are blogs like annarborisoverrated.com where the rea­son to be there is pretty much the com­men­ta­tors, not the blog enti­res by them­sel­ves. The blog­ger her­self, AAIO, is a mas­ter at mode­ra­tion.
    Hugh is a mix. His car­toons are fun, some of his posts are jems, but he always lea­ves room for comemnts by not saying it all. He lea­ves a lot on the table for dis­cus­sion.
    Okay, so now I get to test coCom­ment. Thanks for the invite Tom!
    Blast! coCom­ment is not sup­por­ted at gaping­void! (Sorry if this is a dou­ble post Hugh.)
17. hugh macleod says:

    February 8, 2006 at 5:40 am

    Steve, since when did blog­gers des­pise hie­rachies? News to me.
18. AGRADA says:

    February 8, 2006 at 5:46 am

    Hi there..is there any invi­ta­tions left ? Throw one, thx in advance
19. Barry Dorrans says:

    February 8, 2006 at 9:16 am

    The thing is they already said they don’t crawl (which is why com­ment RSS isn’t used by them, a really bad deci­sion I feel, it would inc­rease their scope greatly).
    That’s not much good to me then, as if they don’t crawl how do I know if I have res­pon­ses? (not that I’ve found anywhere I com­ment on that sup­ports it yet)
    Of course once they start craw­ling they end up in the same boat as tech­no­rati, they get out of date bet­ween the crawls.
20. john says:

    February 8, 2006 at 11:08 am

    For me, the abi­lity to be infor­med that a com­ment has been res­pon­ded to is the killer app for the very rea­son that it faci­li­ta­tes the con­ver­sa­tion. The other ele­ments are to me less obviously attrac­tive but then I guess they’re things for which I’ve not been pining.
    As for the hie­rarchy debate I’m indif­fe­rent, but I do recall many peo­ple espou­sing blog­ging as democ­ra­tic and in some sense equa­li­sing so i think you’ll find a lot of blog­gers who do want a flat earth. And the cynic in me visua­li­ses that some “pet toys” would take great delight in seeing them­sel­ves at the top of some com­men­ters lea­gue table.
21. Jack Yan says:

    February 8, 2006 at 12:26 pm

    Thank you for intro­du­cing us to coCom­ment, Hugh. One glitch
22. Laurent says:

    February 8, 2006 at 3:34 pm

    Thanks for the feed­back peo­ple! To work around the pop-up com­ment issue you might want to try the Fire­fox exten­sion:
    http://www.cocomment.com/teamblog/?p=19
23. Todd Tweedy says:

    February 8, 2006 at 8:32 pm

    I like coCom­ment because it’s part aggre­ga­tor and part orga­ni­zer: it allows me to create my own com­mu­nity of inte­rest based on the con­tent and posts I create and the feed­back gene­ra­ted by others. I’ve ancho­red the pre­sen­ta­tion layer on my busi­ness site and will add it to my blog later. Very kewl… NOTE: I just wish I could coCom­ment this page.
    NOTE TO COCOMMENT DEVELOPERS: Use pop up win­dow error mes­sa­ging when “can’t cocom­ment on this page” to intro­duce a gene­ric upload bin so that users archive com­ments, core post, title, and page.
24. Paul Farnell says:

    February 9, 2006 at 4:21 pm

    Jacob B
25. botanik says:

    February 9, 2006 at 11:52 pm

    i won­der why someone said it doesn’t work on this blog, for me it is wor­king with no pro­blems, and I agree is more like a dia­lo­gue than just scat­te­red posts, which means that we are ente­ring to a new level of com­mu­ni­ca­tion here..so i think.
    /b
26. Dennis Howlett says:

    February 10, 2006 at 10:42 am

    Cock on as we say in Yorkshire. Does the bizzo and then some. The inte­res­ting thing is why they might need you Hugh when the buzza round this is already reaching fever pitch?