Comments on: all marketing is disruption. everything else is secondary.

By: fred

fred — Thu, 02 Feb 2006 19:33:43 +0000

here is some word of mouth marketing for you hugh http://avc.blogs.com/a_vc/2006/02/so_great.html

By: Adrian Lee

Adrian Lee — Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:14:25 +0000

March 2005 sounds about right for when I heard them on Radio1, but that was without the hype. I heard the song, liked it, went online to try and find out more. It seems a fair few people had already heard them, been to gigs if they could, and were sharing mp3’s.
A few months later NME are suddenly posting articles about how they’ve been having packed out gigs due to people finding out about the music from people online. Then the hype started.
My only arguement here is that they are not a product of hype. It’s just contributed to it.
I don’t know if just having a good product counts as market disruption. 10 years ago they could’ve been Oasis or something perhaps, without the Internet they would probably have still made it, as Oasis did, because the product is good (as far as a lot of peple are concerned anyway, music is a wonderfully subjective topic), but it wouldn’t have happened as fast without the ridiculously easy means of distribution some web sites provide now (MySpaces for example).
Perhaps you could argue it’s the web sites used to distribute the music (such as MySpaces) that are disrupting markets, rather than the Artic Monkeys themselves.
Artic Monkeys are just producing music, the same as other bands have been doing for quite a long time. The differences are the tools enabling fans to more quickly share it.

By: hugh macleod

hugh macleod — Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:22:48 +0000

John, I think you’re missing the point. This isn’t about the internet.

By: john

john — Wed, 01 Feb 2006 03:46:25 +0000

Their demos were played on Radio 1 in March 2005 so we can argue till the indy cows come home about what came first. I am entirely in agreement with Jud — the most important P of the archaic 4 Ps of marketing has always been the product.
Many bands before and in the file-sharing era have handed out freebies– the good ones got passed around and copied, the bad ones were binned. The Artic Monkeys are not part of the long tail and therefore I would argue would have come to the fore in non-internet days and that surely is the test of whether the market has been actually disrupted.

By: Jud Branam

Jud Branam — Wed, 01 Feb 2006 01:19:27 +0000

They write great songs. It’s the one ingredient people don’t talk enough about when dissecting what gets word of mouth, what goes viral, etc. Start with a great product.

By: Adrian Lee

Adrian Lee — Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:56:34 +0000

Most people may only have started hearing of them once all the major media hype started, but that doesn’t disclude the fact that there was something going on before that.
Before they were signed to Domino they were in music publications like NME saying how their gigs were sold out because so many people had found out about them through the shared files online.
The record company may have fed off that, but they did not start it.
MANY people (maybe not most, but a lot more than normal, that’s for sure) heard about them before they were signed to a record company (myself for instance) and before all the hype in the mainstream media.
People were going along to gigs in much larger numbers than normal BEFORE the hype in the music press, let alont the mainstream media.
I’m sure they wouldn’t have sold 360k albums in the first week without all the mainstream hype, but there is more to it than just that.

By: john

john — Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:59:45 +0000

The first-time most people heard of them was later in the year when all the press stories about a band breaking via the internet were floated by the record company. Floated so that the band got mainstream media coverage outside the music press. The internet was created as the hook, it was not the cause of the success.

By: john

john — Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:50:47 +0000

Don’t believe the hype! The Arctic Monkeys are not a product of the internet — that is just a savvy bit of music industry PR. I saw the touts selling tickets to their Astoria gig in September at four times face value just like they do to all non-manufactured bands that build a following by live gigs.

By: Adrian Lee

Adrian Lee — Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:54:20 +0000

Hmmm, I don’t know if this is anything beyond a good product and word-of-mouth.
The band aren’t/weren’t internet savvy. They didn’t post their music online.
All they did was distribute freebie CD’s at their gigs, and the fans did the rest.
So, that to me sounds like word-of-mouth. People liked the product, people told other people about said good product. Market disruption?
They then released a very limited edition single, before signing to a record company I believe, which sold out on pre-order, and could’ve sold many more times what were actually produced.
With record companies falling at their feet, they were in the novel position of being able to dictate terms of contracts presumably, and the hype was already starting in the music press.
Then with bigger record copany backing the next single is produced in proper quantities and goes to number 1, and is a big hit with everyone. But it was started by their fans sharing music from some freebies.…

By: hugh macleod

hugh macleod — Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:01:39 +0000

I know Bradley. “Disruption” is the new “Paradignm Shift”… Heh.
[NOTE TO SELF:] Use fresher buzzwords, more often.

By: Bradley Allen

Bradley Allen — Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:20:50 +0000

Nice post as usual, Hugh. But I’m trying to figure out which is more cringe-worthy: “disruptive media/technology/markets” or… “2.0″?
I think the jury is still out, but whenever I hear the terms being used, red flags go up… and there’s always that unmistakable stench of hucksterism (by any other name).

By: Eric

Eric — Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:14:12 +0000

Perhaps the numbers would have been even higher were US iTunes users not greeted with: “The item you’ve requested is not currently available in the US store.” when trying to purchase this album. As a American music fan who has often been driven to illegal file-sharing by late or non-release of UK titles here, I look forward to the day when I’ll be able to actually *pay* for an album on the day of its UK release!
I’ve also always felt vaguely insulted by the “Why would you even be interested in something we haven’t tried to SELL you yet?” attitude that this policy seems to imply.
I suppose the real bogeyman of internet-driven marketing is that it will make so many location-specific, but functionally redundant jobs (i.e. pluggers, payola-whores) unnecessary.

By: Alan Gutierrez

Alan Gutierrez — Tue, 31 Jan 2006 07:49:30 +0000

Hugh
Thanks for posting this, since it fits perfectly with a customer I’m approaching in New Orleans.
There’s a recording studio here, one of two left standing in a music business city. I’m telling them that they could syndicate the shavings on the cutting room floor, and draw the attention of musicians, their true customers, and their fans.
Hugh, I’ve been able to sell myself, by quoting you, and sending people to your blog. You’ve really created a business model for blogging.
Heh. Maybe I can get a Global Microbrand reseller arrangment. Have you considered a certification program?