http://gapingvoid.com/2005/12/19/when-i-hear-the-word-conversation-i-reach-for-my-earplugs/ "cartoons drawn on the back of business cards" Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:18:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 http://gapingvoid.com/2005/12/19/when-i-hear-the-word-conversation-i-reach-for-my-earplugs/comment-page-2/#comment-8907 daen Fri, 23 Dec 2005 19:24:06 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1918#comment-8907 At the risk of reopening this debate, which to my dismay seems to have gone to DEFCON III over some fairly minor points. At the Copenhagen Geek Dinner, the Nuevolution cards were all I had on me. I apologise for being profligate with them, but in my experience it's just one of the things you do when you meet people for the first time -- hand out business cards, if you have them. And for goodness sakes, it's a business card with a logo on it, which in my world is about as innocuous as it gets. I have gathered a huge collection from my 10 years working in London, many of which are associated with happy memories of people, places and events. I tend to make notes about people/events on the back of the cards (whereas Hugh makes art out of his :-). Nuevolution, by the way, has no interest in sponsoring anything like CGD : it's a biotech company, and I just work there as a laboratory rat (well, system admin, but same difference). At the risk of reopening this debate, which to my dismay seems to have gone to DEFCON III over some fairly minor points.
At the Copenhagen Geek Dinner, the Nuevolution cards were all I had on me. I apologise for being profligate with them, but in my experience it’s just one of the things you do when you meet people for the first time — hand out business cards, if you have them. And for goodness sakes, it’s a business card with a logo on it, which in my world is about as innocuous as it gets. I have gathered a huge collection from my 10 years working in London, many of which are associated with happy memories of people, places and events. I tend to make notes about people/events on the back of the cards (whereas Hugh makes art out of his . Nuevolution, by the way, has no interest in sponsoring anything like CGD : it’s a biotech company, and I just work there as a laboratory rat (well, system admin, but same difference).

]]> http://gapingvoid.com/2005/12/19/when-i-hear-the-word-conversation-i-reach-for-my-earplugs/comment-page-2/#comment-8906 Henriette Weber Andersen Thu, 22 Dec 2005 22:00:20 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1918#comment-8906 okay Hugh, sorry.. Im done now * brushes the dirt of my clothes* .... okay Hugh, sorry.. Im done now * brushes the dirt of my clothes* .…

]]> http://gapingvoid.com/2005/12/19/when-i-hear-the-word-conversation-i-reach-for-my-earplugs/comment-page-2/#comment-8905 hugh macleod Thu, 22 Dec 2005 04:02:31 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1918#comment-8905 Guys, get a room! Jesus... ;-) Guys, get a room! Jesus…

]]> http://gapingvoid.com/2005/12/19/when-i-hear-the-word-conversation-i-reach-for-my-earplugs/comment-page-2/#comment-8904 Henriette Thu, 22 Dec 2005 03:45:10 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1918#comment-8904 B B

]]> http://gapingvoid.com/2005/12/19/when-i-hear-the-word-conversation-i-reach-for-my-earplugs/comment-page-1/#comment-8903 Jacob B Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:31:37 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1918#comment-8903 And there's a big difference between networking and just trashing out businesscards to a bunch of strangers you don't know. I still don't see how a sponsorship could hurt this type of event, I wasn't really interested in a networking vs. sponsoring discussion, rather I'd like to see your response to what the others commented here. Maybe my writing style offends some people, but I am pretty sure the "get a life"-style doesn't work that good either. Maybe in kindergarten, but oh well.. kindergarten vs. blogosphere, where's the difference :-) And there’s a big difference between networking and just trashing out businesscards to a bunch of strangers you don’t know.
I still don’t see how a sponsorship could hurt this type of event, I wasn’t really interested in a networking vs. sponsoring discussion, rather I’d like to see your response to what the others commented here.
Maybe my writing style offends some people, but I am pretty sure the “get a life”-style doesn’t work that good either. Maybe in kindergarten, but oh well.. kindergarten vs. blogosphere, where’s the difference

]]> http://gapingvoid.com/2005/12/19/when-i-hear-the-word-conversation-i-reach-for-my-earplugs/comment-page-1/#comment-9390 Jacob B Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:31:37 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1918#comment-9390 And there's a big difference between networking and just trashing out businesscards to a bunch of strangers you don't know. I still don't see how a sponsorship could hurt this type of event, I wasn't really interested in a networking vs. sponsoring discussion, rather I'd like to see your response to what the others commented here. Maybe my writing style offends some people, but I am pretty sure the "get a life"-style doesn't work that good either. Maybe in kindergarten, but oh well.. kindergarten vs. blogosphere, where's the difference :-) And there’s a big difference between networking and just trashing out businesscards to a bunch of strangers you don’t know.
I still don’t see how a sponsorship could hurt this type of event, I wasn’t really interested in a networking vs. sponsoring discussion, rather I’d like to see your response to what the others commented here.
Maybe my writing style offends some people, but I am pretty sure the “get a life”-style doesn’t work that good either. Maybe in kindergarten, but oh well.. kindergarten vs. blogosphere, where’s the difference

]]> http://gapingvoid.com/2005/12/19/when-i-hear-the-word-conversation-i-reach-for-my-earplugs/comment-page-1/#comment-11739 Jacob B Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:31:37 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1918#comment-11739 And there's a big difference between networking and just trashing out businesscards to a bunch of strangers you don't know. I still don't see how a sponsorship could hurt this type of event, I wasn't really interested in a networking vs. sponsoring discussion, rather I'd like to see your response to what the others commented here. Maybe my writing style offends some people, but I am pretty sure the "get a life"-style doesn't work that good either. Maybe in kindergarten, but oh well.. kindergarten vs. blogosphere, where's the difference :-) And there’s a big difference between networking and just trashing out businesscards to a bunch of strangers you don’t know.
I still don’t see how a sponsorship could hurt this type of event, I wasn’t really interested in a networking vs. sponsoring discussion, rather I’d like to see your response to what the others commented here.
Maybe my writing style offends some people, but I am pretty sure the “get a life”-style doesn’t work that good either. Maybe in kindergarten, but oh well.. kindergarten vs. blogosphere, where’s the difference

]]> http://gapingvoid.com/2005/12/19/when-i-hear-the-word-conversation-i-reach-for-my-earplugs/comment-page-1/#comment-14179 Jacob B Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:31:37 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1918#comment-14179 And there's a big difference between networking and just trashing out businesscards to a bunch of strangers you don't know. I still don't see how a sponsorship could hurt this type of event, I wasn't really interested in a networking vs. sponsoring discussion, rather I'd like to see your response to what the others commented here. Maybe my writing style offends some people, but I am pretty sure the "get a life"-style doesn't work that good either. Maybe in kindergarten, but oh well.. kindergarten vs. blogosphere, where's the difference :-) And there’s a big difference between networking and just trashing out businesscards to a bunch of strangers you don’t know.
I still don’t see how a sponsorship could hurt this type of event, I wasn’t really interested in a networking vs. sponsoring discussion, rather I’d like to see your response to what the others commented here.
Maybe my writing style offends some people, but I am pretty sure the “get a life”-style doesn’t work that good either. Maybe in kindergarten, but oh well.. kindergarten vs. blogosphere, where’s the difference

]]> http://gapingvoid.com/2005/12/19/when-i-hear-the-word-conversation-i-reach-for-my-earplugs/comment-page-1/#comment-16605 Jacob B Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:31:37 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1918#comment-16605 And there's a big difference between networking and just trashing out businesscards to a bunch of strangers you don't know. I still don't see how a sponsorship could hurt this type of event, I wasn't really interested in a networking vs. sponsoring discussion, rather I'd like to see your response to what the others commented here. Maybe my writing style offends some people, but I am pretty sure the "get a life"-style doesn't work that good either. Maybe in kindergarten, but oh well.. kindergarten vs. blogosphere, where's the difference :-) And there’s a big difference between networking and just trashing out businesscards to a bunch of strangers you don’t know.
I still don’t see how a sponsorship could hurt this type of event, I wasn’t really interested in a networking vs. sponsoring discussion, rather I’d like to see your response to what the others commented here.
Maybe my writing style offends some people, but I am pretty sure the “get a life”-style doesn’t work that good either. Maybe in kindergarten, but oh well.. kindergarten vs. blogosphere, where’s the difference

]]> http://gapingvoid.com/2005/12/19/when-i-hear-the-word-conversation-i-reach-for-my-earplugs/comment-page-1/#comment-16621 Jacob B Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:31:37 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1918#comment-16621 And there's a big difference between networking and just trashing out businesscards to a bunch of strangers you don't know. I still don't see how a sponsorship could hurt this type of event, I wasn't really interested in a networking vs. sponsoring discussion, rather I'd like to see your response to what the others commented here. Maybe my writing style offends some people, but I am pretty sure the "get a life"-style doesn't work that good either. Maybe in kindergarten, but oh well.. kindergarten vs. blogosphere, where's the difference :-) And there’s a big difference between networking and just trashing out businesscards to a bunch of strangers you don’t know.
I still don’t see how a sponsorship could hurt this type of event, I wasn’t really interested in a networking vs. sponsoring discussion, rather I’d like to see your response to what the others commented here.
Maybe my writing style offends some people, but I am pretty sure the “get a life”-style doesn’t work that good either. Maybe in kindergarten, but oh well.. kindergarten vs. blogosphere, where’s the difference

]]> http://gapingvoid.com/2005/12/19/when-i-hear-the-word-conversation-i-reach-for-my-earplugs/comment-page-1/#comment-8902 henriette Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:02:14 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1918#comment-8902 B B

]]> http://gapingvoid.com/2005/12/19/when-i-hear-the-word-conversation-i-reach-for-my-earplugs/comment-page-1/#comment-8901 Ric Wed, 21 Dec 2005 04:33:25 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1918#comment-8901 Seems your comments engine doesn't like my URL - tried to leave a comment here the other day and your spam filter objected. Ended up removing the URL from the post and my test (previous comment) worked. Now I did have something to say about this, but it's all a bit tired now ... I blogged it, but I'm too scared to tell you where, otherwise this comment won't be accepted either! Seems your comments engine doesn’t like my URL — tried to leave a comment here the other day and your spam filter objected. Ended up removing the URL from the post and my test (previous comment) worked.
Now I did have something to say about this, but it’s all a bit tired now … I blogged it, but I’m too scared to tell you where, otherwise this comment won’t be accepted either!

]]> http://gapingvoid.com/2005/12/19/when-i-hear-the-word-conversation-i-reach-for-my-earplugs/comment-page-1/#comment-8900 Ric Wed, 21 Dec 2005 04:30:08 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1918#comment-8900 Just checking something, Hugh ... Just checking something, Hugh …

]]> http://gapingvoid.com/2005/12/19/when-i-hear-the-word-conversation-i-reach-for-my-earplugs/comment-page-1/#comment-8899 Jacob B Wed, 21 Dec 2005 02:44:23 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1918#comment-8899 Ok, seems like people weren't hearing me. Is this discussion really so important? And oh god, do you have to over interpret everything I said? I am not ungrateful that Line made a great venue for the afterparty, but nevertheless it gave Kenzu42 some whuffie, just like a positive blog entry would do. My point was not that it was a bad afterparty, but that I could hardly imagine anyone having trouble with staying at a place for free, compared to being at a bar where you have to pay. It was all positive Line, don't get me wrong - I think it was great and I only said what I said because I'd like something like that happen again without a big discussion on sponsorships :-) Now, I do know that Daen didn't pay anyone for the allowance to drop his businesscards, but no matter if he did it for fun or for work, it still seems corporate to me. What if he had been employed by MSN and not Nuevolution? Would you then have removed the cards? I am just trying to see the balance here, you don't want a sponsored geek dinner, but you do want a geek dinner with free adverts? I'd prefer that if people really do want to show up and make an advert out of themselves, that they then somehow sponsor the event for the benefit of others. For example a deduction of the price of the dinner would have been good :-) I'd suggest that for our own, and Hugh's sake, that we end the discussion, I really didn't mean to cause any harm - but seems people are taking this a little bit too literal for my liking. Chill people, chill :-) Ok, seems like people weren’t hearing me. Is this discussion really so important? And oh god, do you have to over interpret everything I said? I am not ungrateful that Line made a great venue for the afterparty, but nevertheless it gave Kenzu42 some whuffie, just like a positive blog entry would do. My point was not that it was a bad afterparty, but that I could hardly imagine anyone having trouble with staying at a place for free, compared to being at a bar where you have to pay. It was all positive Line, don’t get me wrong — I think it was great and I only said what I said because I’d like something like that happen again without a big discussion on sponsorships
Now, I do know that Daen didn’t pay anyone for the allowance to drop his businesscards, but no matter if he did it for fun or for work, it still seems corporate to me. What if he had been employed by MSN and not Nuevolution? Would you then have removed the cards? I am just trying to see the balance here, you don’t want a sponsored geek dinner, but you do want a geek dinner with free adverts? I’d prefer that if people really do want to show up and make an advert out of themselves, that they then somehow sponsor the event for the benefit of others. For example a deduction of the price of the dinner would have been good
I’d suggest that for our own, and Hugh’s sake, that we end the discussion, I really didn’t mean to cause any harm — but seems people are taking this a little bit too literal for my liking. Chill people, chill

]]> http://gapingvoid.com/2005/12/19/when-i-hear-the-word-conversation-i-reach-for-my-earplugs/comment-page-1/#comment-9389 Jacob B Wed, 21 Dec 2005 02:44:23 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1918#comment-9389 Ok, seems like people weren't hearing me. Is this discussion really so important? And oh god, do you have to over interpret everything I said? I am not ungrateful that Line made a great venue for the afterparty, but nevertheless it gave Kenzu42 some whuffie, just like a positive blog entry would do. My point was not that it was a bad afterparty, but that I could hardly imagine anyone having trouble with staying at a place for free, compared to being at a bar where you have to pay. It was all positive Line, don't get me wrong - I think it was great and I only said what I said because I'd like something like that happen again without a big discussion on sponsorships :-) Now, I do know that Daen didn't pay anyone for the allowance to drop his businesscards, but no matter if he did it for fun or for work, it still seems corporate to me. What if he had been employed by MSN and not Nuevolution? Would you then have removed the cards? I am just trying to see the balance here, you don't want a sponsored geek dinner, but you do want a geek dinner with free adverts? I'd prefer that if people really do want to show up and make an advert out of themselves, that they then somehow sponsor the event for the benefit of others. For example a deduction of the price of the dinner would have been good :-) I'd suggest that for our own, and Hugh's sake, that we end the discussion, I really didn't mean to cause any harm - but seems people are taking this a little bit too literal for my liking. Chill people, chill :-) Ok, seems like people weren’t hearing me. Is this discussion really so important? And oh god, do you have to over interpret everything I said? I am not ungrateful that Line made a great venue for the afterparty, but nevertheless it gave Kenzu42 some whuffie, just like a positive blog entry would do. My point was not that it was a bad afterparty, but that I could hardly imagine anyone having trouble with staying at a place for free, compared to being at a bar where you have to pay. It was all positive Line, don’t get me wrong — I think it was great and I only said what I said because I’d like something like that happen again without a big discussion on sponsorships
Now, I do know that Daen didn’t pay anyone for the allowance to drop his businesscards, but no matter if he did it for fun or for work, it still seems corporate to me. What if he had been employed by MSN and not Nuevolution? Would you then have removed the cards? I am just trying to see the balance here, you don’t want a sponsored geek dinner, but you do want a geek dinner with free adverts? I’d prefer that if people really do want to show up and make an advert out of themselves, that they then somehow sponsor the event for the benefit of others. For example a deduction of the price of the dinner would have been good
I’d suggest that for our own, and Hugh’s sake, that we end the discussion, I really didn’t mean to cause any harm — but seems people are taking this a little bit too literal for my liking. Chill people, chill

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