December 7, 2005

cut of the gate

Jeff Jar­vis thinks blog­ging pane­lists should be given a per­cen­tage of the takings:

We as pane­lists come as their trai­ned mon­keys to give these con­fe­rence orga­ni­zers the only dam­ned con­tent they have and they expect us to pay for the bana­nas? Well, peel this!
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9 Responses to “cut of the gate”

  1. Hugh, would you pay to get into the event that asked you to be on a panel? This, as I read Jar­vis’ article, is the real crux of the mat­ter. I thought the bit about “cut of the gate” was just him having a bit of fun.

  2. Pane­lists and payments

    Should spea­kers get an hono­ra­rium? Com­ped con­fe­rence fees? Air­fare and hotel? Nada? The whole topic of how and if spea­kers get paid is a recu­rring theme among some folks who speak at industry events and mee­ting plan­ners. Jeff Jar­vis at Buzz­Machine repr…

  3. Thomas says:

    Agree with Milan, I think that is his real point.

  4. Spea­king from the con­fe­rence orga­ni­zer side (not this par­ti­cu­lar one Jar­vis harps on), I don’t unders­tand the ratio­nale of orga­ni­za­tions who charge their spea­kers the same regis­tra­tion fees as ever­yone else. I never have.
    The con­tent your spea­kers offer is what you’re selling. In retail terms, spea­kers are “cost of goods sold”, not a reve­nue oppor­tu­nity.
    I’m a regu­lar spea­ker at my industry association’s annual gig. Every year they tell me the only way to attend all the ses­sions and avoid the regis­tra­tion fee is to attend a spe­cial “speaker’s ses­sion” on how to be a good spea­ker. But once you’ve done that, that should be enough. How much bet­ter am I going to get in an hour? It’s silly and coun­ter­pro­duc­tive.
    So have to agree with Jar­vis’ main point. Per­so­nally spea­king, I often arrange air and hotel for cer­tain “recog­ni­zed” names that will draw atten­dees — that’s a mar­ke­ting cost. If I’m run­ning a semi­nar on blog­ging, I wouldn’t get nearly as much value offe­ring say, me, as a spea­ker ins­tead of Jar­vis or McLeod, even though I know a heck of a lot about the sub­ject.
    But not ever­yone gets tra­vel reim­bur­sed — as Hugh men­tions, as an orga­ni­zer I’m also in a posi­tion to help ele­vate peo­ple without “name recog­ni­tion”, so there’s both a net­wor­king bene­fit and a “bene­fit by asso­cia­tion” that acc­rues to those non-celebrity peo­ple who are on my spea­ker rosters.

  5. Power to the Panelist

    I’m sure most of you have atten­ded an event of some sort, be it a user group, asso­cia­tion mee­ting, con­fe­rence or tra­deshow. At these events, you’ve pro­bably encoun­te­red a panel dis­cus­sion on topic X or the latest Y. Did you…

  6. Piaras Kelly says:

    No fee? Cool, we’ll have to “per­suade” you with booze to come over to Ire­land for our next TechCamp

  7. frosty says:

    It’s impor­tant to remem­ber that your ave­rage pro­fes­sio­nal society ser­ves three inter­con­nec­ted pur­po­ses:
    1) Make money for the peo­ple run­ning the thing.
    2) Faci­li­tate Net­wor­king.
    3) Manu­fac­ture paper trails of exper­tise for the mem­bers.
    Kinda sad if blog­ging con­fe­ren­ces don’t come up with a more inte­res­ting model.

  8. John Seiffer says:

    1) Make money for the peo­ple run­ning the thing.
    2) Faci­li­tate Net­wor­king.
    3) Manu­fac­ture paper trails of exper­tise for the mem­bers.
    Having been a pre­si­dent of such a group (pre­si­dents are the volun­teer posi­tion — Exe­cu­tive Direc­tors get a salary) I can tell you there is a 4th pur­pose: Pro­vide actual value for the atten­dees so they come and come back.
    It makes no sense not to give speakers/panelist a free tic­ket — it makes atten­dance go up — atten­dees get to hang out with spea­kers etc.
    As for paying them, if the orga­ni­za­tion isn’t rich (not all are) you have to jug­gle how to do that without brea­king the bank. It’s a balance bet­ween pro­vi­ding good peo­ple to speak, which one only comes if you pay them, and what non-cash value can you pro­vide.
    **Kinda sad if blog­ging con­fe­ren­ces don’t come up with a more inte­res­ting model.**
    Well let’s not be dif­fe­rent just because we can. New ways of doing things are not bet­ter because they are new, they are bet­ter if they use new tech­no­logy or ideas in ways that weren’t pos­si­ble before to solve real pro­blems.
    Seem’s like Jar­vis’ pro­blem could be sol­ved by good old com­mon sense.

  9. frosty says:

    John, I totally agree with your #4, it’s just that for a lot of orga­ni­za­tions the net­wor­king part mostly covers it and a good key­note spea­ker is the rest. In the best case all the panels are really fas­ci­na­ting and exci­ting, but I’ve seen other cases.
    A “more inte­res­ting model” in my opi­nion isn’t new for the sake of new (and maybe it’s not even new), but when Hugh says someone wan­ted $1500 from him, my WTF Meter goes nuts. A big part of the appeal of blog­ging is the low barrier to entry finan­cially, tech­ni­cally and logis­ti­cally. Blog­fe­ren­ces should also be like that, I think.
    (Disc­lai­mer: haven’t actually been to any yet, hoping to do so in ’06.)