Comments on: dispatches from the we-need-a-blog-let’s-get-the-intern-to-write-it school of advertising http://gapingvoid.com/2005/09/12/dispatches-from-the-we-need-a-blog-lets-get-the-intern-to-write-it-school-of-advertising/ "cartoons drawn on the back of business cards" Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:03:19 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Shelley Noble http://gapingvoid.com/2005/09/12/dispatches-from-the-we-need-a-blog-lets-get-the-intern-to-write-it-school-of-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-7803 Shelley Noble Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:14:52 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1764#comment-7803 Since when do cunts have stiffies?! :-P Since when do cunts have stiffies?! :-P

]]> By: hugh macleod http://gapingvoid.com/2005/09/12/dispatches-from-the-we-need-a-blog-lets-get-the-intern-to-write-it-school-of-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-7802 hugh macleod Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:13:34 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1764#comment-7802 [FULL DISCLOSURE:] Hamish's first job out of college was selling advertising space for Campaign Magazine, the London Advertising trade mag. Heh. [FULL DISCLOSURE:] Hamish’s first job out of college was selling advertising space for Campaign Magazine, the London Advertising trade mag. Heh.

]]> By: Hamish http://gapingvoid.com/2005/09/12/dispatches-from-the-we-need-a-blog-lets-get-the-intern-to-write-it-school-of-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-7801 Hamish Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:23:45 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1764#comment-7801 Went into that Blog for about ten seconds. Made my fucking trigger finger itch. What a bunch of Nathan Barley wankers, sitting around drinking free beer that they advertise, and so is hip, fucking Albanian or somesuch. Odd trip to the plush bogs to top up on self-importance powder. Can you imagine the paucity of ideas from the kind of cunts that having climbed up to the edge of the shit filled cesspool that is the shrinking London ad scene. these fuckers are the lungfish that live long enough in the dry season. I can just imagine that they all have real stiffies thinking about how they are kind of on reality TV, but that it is Ironic and hip because its also about advertising. Bet all of those shits have the website on the favourites, and look about once an hour to see if they are on it... FuckFuckFuck. I'm going to rub "Toilet Duck" in my eyes until the sight of that goes away. Went into that Blog for about ten seconds. Made my fucking trigger finger itch. What a bunch of Nathan Barley wankers, sitting around drinking free beer that they advertise, and so is hip, fucking Albanian or somesuch. Odd trip to the plush bogs to top up on self-importance powder.
Can you imagine the paucity of ideas from the kind of cunts that having climbed up to the edge of the shit filled cesspool that is the shrinking London ad scene. these fuckers are the lungfish that live long enough in the dry season.
I can just imagine that they all have real stiffies thinking about how they are kind of on reality TV, but that it is Ironic and hip because its also about advertising. Bet all of those shits have the website on the favourites, and look about once an hour to see if they are on it…
FuckFuckFuck. I’m going to rub “Toilet Duck” in my eyes until the sight of that goes away.

]]> By: URBANintelligence http://gapingvoid.com/2005/09/12/dispatches-from-the-we-need-a-blog-lets-get-the-intern-to-write-it-school-of-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-7804 URBANintelligence Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:52:54 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1764#comment-7804 <strong>Does W&K London's Blog Suck?</strong> Wieden & Kennedy London has a blog. It's kind of about Wieden & Kennedy London, but nothing really happens. Is this the way an agency should blog? Fast Company named it one of their top ad agency blogs. Hugh McCloud... Does W&K London’s Blog Suck?

Wieden & Kennedy London has a blog. It’s kind of about Wieden & Kennedy London, but nothing really happens. Is this the way an agency should blog? Fast Company named it one of their top ad agency blogs. Hugh McCloud…

]]> By: Scott http://gapingvoid.com/2005/09/12/dispatches-from-the-we-need-a-blog-lets-get-the-intern-to-write-it-school-of-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-7800 Scott Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:51:30 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1764#comment-7800 The first thing I look for in a company I want to hire is empty beer bottles all over the table. The first thing I look for in a company I want to hire is empty beer bottles all over the table.

]]> By: hugh macleod http://gapingvoid.com/2005/09/12/dispatches-from-the-we-need-a-blog-lets-get-the-intern-to-write-it-school-of-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-7799 hugh macleod Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:52:37 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1764#comment-7799 PS: Andreas, blogs are just the tip of the Cluetrain iceberg. And it wasn't the tip that hit the Titanic. PS: Andreas, blogs are just the tip of the Cluetrain iceberg. And it wasn’t the tip that hit the Titanic.

]]> By: hugh macleod http://gapingvoid.com/2005/09/12/dispatches-from-the-we-need-a-blog-lets-get-the-intern-to-write-it-school-of-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-7798 hugh macleod Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:41:15 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1764#comment-7798 No worries, Andreas. Hope all is well on your end ;-) No worries, Andreas. Hope all is well on your end ;-)

]]> By: Andreas Duess http://gapingvoid.com/2005/09/12/dispatches-from-the-we-need-a-blog-lets-get-the-intern-to-write-it-school-of-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-7797 Andreas Duess Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:14:11 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1764#comment-7797 "Why not? Because blogs,when done well, are cheap and easy. They're in the business of selling stuff that is neither." Hmmm. I am not sure. That statement reminds me too much of the old adage 'Linux is only free if your time has no value'. A blog, when done well, takes considerable effort. And effort equals time. Which brings us back to Linux. Selling stuff, and helping to sell stuff, is not inherently a bad thing. Our entire society is build on trade. Take it away and see our empires crumble. Advertising is the oil that keeps the machinery going that puts roofs over our collective heads. (Whether that's a good or a bad thing, especially in the light of mounting environmental concerns, is probably a discussion for another day.) Blogging, when done with the purpose of selling stuff or launching idea virii (I hope that's spelled right) is jusst another forjm of advertising. Is is inherently more honest? I doubt it. Is it inheerently more effective? I doubt that even more. Is it cheaper? Yes, if your time has no value ;) I don't mean to be down on blogging, I enjoy blogs and the discussion surrounding them, far too much for that. But our opinions differ when it comes to the role of blogging in the marketplace. Hope all is well in Blighty, have a beer for me when you're next in London. “Why not? Because blogs,when done well, are cheap and easy. They’re in the business of selling stuff that is neither.”
Hmmm. I am not sure. That statement reminds me too much of the old adage ‘Linux is only free if your time has no value’.
A blog, when done well, takes considerable effort. And effort equals time. Which brings us back to Linux.
Selling stuff, and helping to sell stuff, is not inherently a bad thing. Our entire society is build on trade. Take it away and see our empires crumble. Advertising is the oil that keeps the machinery going that puts roofs over our collective heads. (Whether that’s a good or a bad thing, especially in the light of mounting environmental concerns, is probably a discussion for another day.)
Blogging, when done with the purpose of selling stuff or launching idea virii (I hope that’s spelled right) is jusst another forjm of advertising. Is is inherently more honest? I doubt it. Is it inheerently more effective? I doubt that even more. Is it cheaper? Yes, if your time has no value ;)
I don’t mean to be down on blogging, I enjoy blogs and the discussion surrounding them, far too much for that. But our opinions differ when it comes to the role of blogging in the marketplace.
Hope all is well in Blighty, have a beer for me when you’re next in London.

]]> By: hugh macleod http://gapingvoid.com/2005/09/12/dispatches-from-the-we-need-a-blog-lets-get-the-intern-to-write-it-school-of-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-7796 hugh macleod Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:41:43 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1764#comment-7796 "On a more serious note, the ad agencies are learning and learning fast." Andreas, I'm not sure if I agree with you. Why not? Because blogs,when done well, are cheap and easy. They're in the business of selling stuff that is neither. Anybody who pays serious agency money to make blogs for them is either a fool or being ripped off. Just my opinion. “On a more serious note, the ad agencies are learning and learning fast.”
Andreas, I’m not sure if I agree with you.
Why not? Because blogs,when done well, are cheap and easy. They’re in the business of selling stuff that is neither.
Anybody who pays serious agency money to make blogs for them is either a fool or being ripped off. Just my opinion.

]]> By: Tim Kitchin http://gapingvoid.com/2005/09/12/dispatches-from-the-we-need-a-blog-lets-get-the-intern-to-write-it-school-of-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-7795 Tim Kitchin Tue, 13 Sep 2005 05:01:09 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1764#comment-7795 I think you're all under some delusion that advertising folk should be cool. Once in every 100 attempts, an advert is cool, but advertising folk??? It's a business. Thanks for lifting the bonnet chaps... That's the beauty of blogging. You can't keep up the pretence for long. Anyhow, as guy ritchie would say...'what exactly does it mean when you deconstruct the context of cool...er...geezer?' I think you’re all under some delusion that advertising folk should be cool. Once in every 100 attempts, an advert is cool, but advertising folk??? It’s a business. Thanks for lifting the bonnet chaps…
That’s the beauty of blogging. You can’t keep up the pretence for long.
Anyhow, as guy ritchie would say…‘what exactly does it mean when you deconstruct the context of cool…er…geezer?’

]]> By: sam http://gapingvoid.com/2005/09/12/dispatches-from-the-we-need-a-blog-lets-get-the-intern-to-write-it-school-of-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-7794 sam Tue, 13 Sep 2005 00:13:11 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1764#comment-7794 what a total waste of everyone's time what a total waste of everyone’s time

]]> By: frosty http://gapingvoid.com/2005/09/12/dispatches-from-the-we-need-a-blog-lets-get-the-intern-to-write-it-school-of-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-7793 frosty Mon, 12 Sep 2005 23:13:59 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1764#comment-7793 Hmmm... I'd say "under-designed" by a long shot. If you're Hugh, and you're pushing the idea that the conversation is the point and the look isn't (and you have nice cartoons) then the generic blog look fits. If you're WK, it seems you might want to make a sharper visual impression. Oh, wait... I just checked their main website. I guess they don't go on the Internets much. Anyway, yeah, kudos for not forcing popups and flash (their regular site does, even from the "HTML low bandwidth" point of entry). But isn't that just because they're using a standard template? The content looks to me like it's recruiting-oriented, but maybe I just don't know enough about that business. If I were thinking of working for them, or lusted after one of their staff, I'd certainly read all the posts. Love the Oregon office though. (Sorry, guess I'm complaining about it too, and I'm not even in the same biz.) Hmmm… I’d say “under-designed” by a long shot.
If you’re Hugh, and you’re pushing the idea that the conversation is the point and the look isn’t (and you have nice cartoons) then the generic blog look fits.
If you’re WK, it seems you might want to make a sharper visual impression. Oh, wait… I just checked their main website. I guess they don’t go on the Internets much.
Anyway, yeah, kudos for not forcing popups and flash (their regular site does, even from the “HTML low bandwidth” point of entry). But isn’t that just because they’re using a standard template?
The content looks to me like it’s recruiting-oriented, but maybe I just don’t know enough about that business. If I were thinking of working for them, or lusted after one of their staff, I’d certainly read all the posts.
Love the Oregon office though. (Sorry, guess I’m complaining about it too, and I’m not even in the same biz.)

]]> By: Andreas Duess http://gapingvoid.com/2005/09/12/dispatches-from-the-we-need-a-blog-lets-get-the-intern-to-write-it-school-of-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-7792 Andreas Duess Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:23:38 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1764#comment-7792 I don't know. I kind of like it. Nothing special, but also not affensive in any way. On a more serious note, the ad agencies are learning and learning fast. The recent purchase frenzy by the big networks (this is a good time to own a boutique agency) is testament to this. Strawberry Frog in the Netherlands is an example of clever people doing clever stuff that's honest and relevant. I don’t know. I kind of like it. Nothing special, but also not affensive in any way.
On a more serious note, the ad agencies are learning and learning fast. The recent purchase frenzy by the big networks (this is a good time to own a boutique agency) is testament to this. Strawberry Frog in the Netherlands is an example of clever people doing clever stuff that’s honest and relevant.

]]> By: Jim Seybert (on Fools Box) http://gapingvoid.com/2005/09/12/dispatches-from-the-we-need-a-blog-lets-get-the-intern-to-write-it-school-of-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-7791 Jim Seybert (on Fools Box) Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:19:35 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1764#comment-7791 OK Hugh - here's why I like the W+K blog (at the risk - hope - of having you draw a cartoon about me) -- The W+K effort tells me less about WHAT they do and a lot about WHO they are. Just about ad agency can brag about their latest conquest and the brilliancy of their people - this one shares their personality, which I think is more important when choosing someone to manage your image. OK Hugh — here’s why I like the W+K blog (at the risk — hope — of having you draw a cartoon about me) –
The W+K effort tells me less about WHAT they do and a lot about WHO they are. Just about ad agency can brag about their latest conquest and the brilliancy of their people — this one shares their personality, which I think is more important when choosing someone to manage your image.

]]> By: Alexoid http://gapingvoid.com/2005/09/12/dispatches-from-the-we-need-a-blog-lets-get-the-intern-to-write-it-school-of-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-7790 Alexoid Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:18:12 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1764#comment-7790 Hum. It's not that bad. Yeah, there's a lot of backpatting-look-at-our-cool-offices type crap but overall it isn't overly digested. It will be interesting to see if it progresses into something a bit deeper. Hum. It’s not that bad. Yeah, there’s a lot of backpatting-look-at-our-cool-offices type crap but overall it isn’t overly digested. It will be interesting to see if it progresses into something a bit deeper.

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