August 13, 2005

never try to change people’s behavior

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Ed Byrne is right, of course:

Having said that, I don

15 Responses to “never try to change people’s behavior”

  1. I don’t think it’s just beha­viour, as I blog­ged (*snic­ker*) it’s also mar­ke­ting by guilt. You know what the Bri­tish are like, there’s a good pro­ba­bi­lity we’ll say nice things because we feel obliged.

  2. Per­fect sense, Hugh. Strong rela­tionships are based on an align­ment of inte­rests. If you can’t find that align­ment, if it is not obvious, you have to walk away.
    Barry — You mean dam­ning with faint praise? If you read a pub like Car and Dri­ver, which depends on auto­mo­tive adver­ti­sing reve­nue, you learn that a scathing review is one with the least hyper­bole. As Steve said recently:
    > Posi­tive social net­works are crea­ted and grow natu­rally because the nodes on the net­work achieve mutual bene­fit. The nodes attract. In nega­tive social net­works the nodes repulse each other and natu­rally want to decay. I’m not sure how you’d pro­tect a nega­tive social net­work from deca­ying. Most peo­ple don’t hold grud­ges for very long.
    Ergo. If you don’t have anything good to say, don’t say it. Why add insult to impen­ding injury?

  3. “You just try to align your beha­vior with theirs.”
    Well I don’t believe that’s true. Peo­ple will change their beha­viour if they see what’s in it for them (one of the Frea­ko­no­mics the­mes). The great thing about the Inter­net is that it’s trans­pa­rent and everything is visi­ble. So to thine own self be true. That may switch a light bulb on in someone else’s head. If you’re insin­cere then that will be equally obvious and you’ve was­ted your effort and their time and band­width. Any­way it’s a great topic. It all links in with Seth Godin’s now his­to­ric theme of Per­mis­sion Marketing.

  4. I’m fas­ci­na­ted by this whole expe­ri­ment. One thing occurs to me though. Has anyone blog­ged any nega­tive reviews of Stormhoek?
    One would anti­ci­pate peo­ple who’ve enjo­yed the wine blog­ging about it, and those who didn’t thin­king, well I got a free bottle of wine and lea­ving it at that.
    Would the silent blog­gers in effect say more about the wine than the vocal ones?
    It would be inte­res­ting to know the pro­por­tion of free­bies sent out to the num­ber of blogs cove­ring their expe­rience of the wine positively.

  5. hugh macleod says:

    Alex, I’m not sure if I agree with you. Blog­gers like a bit of con­tro­versy, ergo I think a cre­di­ble “Stormhoek is crap” idea-virus would spread like wild­fire.
    The fact that one hasn’t emer­ged yet, I inter­pret as a good sign for Stormhoek. One that far out­weighs any “blog silence”.
    Besi­des, it’s not as if “blog silence” has been a much of pro­blem lately ;-)

  6. I’m sure the wine is very pala­ta­ble and more pro­bably abso­lu­tely deli­cious. I guess because wine is a rela­ti­vely sub­jec­tive expe­rience, some blog­gers will find it more to their liking than others.
    Clearly nobody has yet found the wine tas­tes like vine­gar other­wise we’d all have heard about it by now. In addi­tion, I don’t imgaine a man of your talent and inte­grity would be hoi­king around the online equi­va­lent of Blue Nun ;)
    The more I think about it, the more I think Stormhoek can only win from this exer­cise. The ques­tion is whether they will win big or win small?

  7. hugh macleod says:

    Barry, and I disa­gree with you ;-)
    I’m sure peo­ple will change their beha­vior if you pro­vide them with an incen­tive, but if you make that your top prio­rity, above all else, you’re most likely to fail. Here’s why:
    http://www.gapingvoid.com/Moveable_Type/archives/zzzzzz7654105.jpg

  8. Adam says:

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  9. Bryan Ong says:

    People’s beha­viour can be chan­ged in the long term but rarely in the short term. Mar­ke­ting and any adver­ti­sing stra­tegy in trying to be ‘in line’ with cus­to­mers’ beha­viour, that hopes to change cus­to­mer beha­viour have to look in the long term rather than in a short period. Don’t expect to change your customer’s beha­viour with one mar­ke­ting move of yours. It takes hun­dreds of these moves to change them.
    Bryan

  10. Mar­ke­ting and Blogging

    Hugh Mac­Leod: From a mar­ke­ting pers­pec­tive, one use­ful thing blog­ging teaches you is: peo­ple do what they want to do, not what you want them to do. So you never try to change people’s beha­vior. You just try to…

  11. Mar­ke­ting and Blogging

    Hugh Mac­Leod: From a mar­ke­ting pers­pec­tive, one use­ful thing blog­ging teaches you is: peo­ple do what they want to do, not what you want them to do. So you never try to change people’s beha­vior. You just try to…

  12. Gordon says:

    I always thought that point-of-sale offers were used to change our beha­viour in the short term.
    In Tai­wan, the local con­ve­nience sto­res use various tac­tics to get peo­ple to buy more than they would have done had the offer not been there. A recent craze here was the offer of a spe­cial, “collec­ta­ble” Hello Kitty mag­net if you spent more than 79 NT dollars (not sure the exact amount). I know that if my total came to 65, I’d grab another pack of gum so I could get one to give my daughter.

  13. Jeff Z says:

    “So you never try to change people’s beha­vior. You just try to align your beha­vior with theirs.”
    Mar­tial artists call this “Ai-Ki,” as in “aikido,” or “The Way of Har­mony with Spi­rit,” where spi­rit means “energy.” Rather than block or con­front your opponent’s (or client’s) energy by pro­jec­ting your energy at them, you ins­tead turn your energy along the same path as theirs and blend with it.
    In aikido, once you’ve blen­ded their energy with yours, you can direct their energy to more… uh, cons­truc­tive ends — in com­bat, put­ting them down on the floor and immo­bi­li­zing them as oppo­sed to get­ting hit in the face, cal­ming their angry energy and redi­rec­ting it in a way that’s safe for them and for you.
    The best aikido schools teach that Ai-Ki is something to prac­tice in all things you do in life, not just if you’re attac­ked; you’ve just come at that same les­son from a very dif­fe­rent direc­tion, Hugh! :)

  14. I don’t think I agree with that. I think there are huge num­bers of peo­ple who don’t do what they want to do, because mar­ke­ting has chan­ged their beha­viour.
    For exam­ple, huge num­bers of peo­ple want to eat healthy food, local food, food they have coo­ked them­sel­ves, but they do not do so because of the pre­va­lence of super­mar­kets and other junk food jug­ger­naughts.
    Some com­men­ters have sug­ges­ted that if you make clear what’s in it for them, peo­ple will change their beha­viour. That is true — the super­mar­kets made clear that con­ve­nience and low pri­ces were in it for the cus­to­mer and beha­viour chan­ged. We used to spend an hour coo­king the main meal of the day — on ave­rage, now we spend ten minu­tes.
    The aspect that may be mis­sing from this con­ver­sa­tion is lea­dership. Lea­dership in the sense of moti­va­ting peo­ple to align their beha­viour with what they truly want, not with what mar­ke­ters tell them is in it for them.

  15. Mar­ke­ting Disruption

    Link: gaping­void: never try to change people’s beha­vior. I’ve been follo­wing Hugh’s side­line, ie new client, with inte­rest. He’s leve­re­ging his muscle in the blogo-world to gene­rate some PR for a wine called Stormhoek by giving away free sam­ples and