July 1, 2005

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9 Responses to ““it”

  1. Jeff says:

    I sus­pect that’s because Jots­pot didn’t staff up with 50 and give every one Aeron Chairs, Xoo­ters, fully cate­red lunches/dinners/breakfasts and “pres­ti­gous” office space.

  2. MarkN says:

    I con­cur, Jeff.
    Let me posit a few coro­lla­ries
    1) They know now what they didn’t know then which is that VC’s don’t add much if any value.
    2) They’d just rather not deal with VC shit
    3) VC’s have grown inc­rea­singly more con­ser­va­tive and wouldn’t have inves­ted any­way.
    4) In the dot­com hey­day almost any team with a modi­cum of a track record was able to raise ludic­rous amounts of money.
    5) Past suc­cess pro­vi­des him the luxury of exer­ci­sing his inner con­trol freak, which is to say by suc­king it up and doing the dirty work on his own dime, he will pro­bably end up owning 70% of it by the time it reaches its conc­lu­sion (trade sale or IPO) ins­tead of the I con­cur, Jeff.
    Let me posit a few coro­lla­ries
    1) They know now what they didn’t know then which is that VC’s don’t add much if any value.
    2) They’d just rather not deal with VC shit
    3) VC’s have grown inc­rea­singly more con­ser­va­tive and wouldn’t have inves­ted any­way.
    4) In the dot­com hey­day almost any team with a modi­cum of a track record was able to raise ludic­rous amounts of money.
    5) Past suc­cess pro­vi­des him the luxury of exer­ci­sing his inner con­trol freak, which is to say by suc­king it up and doing the dirty work on his own dime, he will pro­bably end up owning 70% of it by the time it reaches its conc­lu­sion (trade sale or IPO) ins­tead of the <5% that was typi­cal for foun­ders in the pre­vious time around.

  3. hugh macleod says:

    Peo­ple spend their own money dif­fe­rently than they spend other people’s money. That’s just human nature.
    EnglishCut.com, for exam­ple, was star­ted for $500, and it’s been pretty much self-funding since then. Can you ima­gine if we had had a third party inves­tor with deep pockets?

  4. Cole says:

    “Peo­ple spend their own money dif­fe­rently than they spend other people’s money.”
    The amount of dif­fe­rence I’ve found, at least with myself, is rela­ti­vely absurd. When I do the cor­po­rate thing (consulting/marketing/etc.) for a large com­pany there is a really back­wards men­ta­lity that you have to spend as much money as pos­si­ble because how much you spent last year deter­mi­nes how much you get next year. That’s the most pro­mi­nent exam­ple because it beco­mes part of every deci­sion. As long as you can jus­tify why you spent it, then you should spend it.
    I used to think, “wow that’s crazy to think that way,” but the lon­ger I sta­yed in that envi­ron­ment, the more I got used to it.
    Star­ting a site that I love and care about has put me back into the more ROI mode of thin­king. I’m trying to hire a desig­ner now, and it’s taking a while. It’s worth it though to me because it’s my money.

  5. frosty says:

    JotS­pot looks pretty good, and a hun­dred thou­sand sounds like the right num­ber. Not cut­ting any cor­ners, pro­bably paying a few peo­ple cost-of-living, but also not being was­te­ful.
    For something around the size of JotS­pot, you need a few pro­gram­mers on full-time for something like six months, and of course some equip­ment, and then you’re ready to rock and roll. At which point, you’d bet­ter hope your busi­ness and mar­ke­ting team is suf­fi­ciently clue­ful.
    One thing that’s always baf­fled me about the VC world is this divi­sion bet­ween “fun­ding” and “angels.” When I look around now, I don’t see much need for an “angel” to come in with $100K and take a big piece of the action. Because if push comes to shove, you can do it without the money, it’ll just take a little lon­ger (day jobs) and be a little more stress­ful.
    But “fun­ding” doesn’t hap­pen at those small levels. I think a really smart VC would toss around a *lot* of $100K chunks and not ask for the world in return. Why doesn’t this hap­pen? Why does ever­yone talk about millions? Why can’t a true Ven­ture Capi­ta­list be on the same foo­ting as the rest of the core team, except they give money where the others give sweat?
    (Maybe because that’s not how VC-types got rich in the first place, maybe because they’re con­ge­ni­tally inca­pa­ble of that kind of thin­king.)
    (Maybe that’s going to change, with or without them.)
    (Maybe there will be a new kind of VC, the Long Tail VC, who doesn’t care about Sand Hill Road.)
    (Maybe I should drink less coffee.)

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