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	<title>Comments on: a very radical advertising idea: business models that don’t suck.</title>
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		<title>By: uli's objets trouvés.</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2005/05/24/a-very-radical-advertising-idea-business-models-that-dont-suck/#comment-6162</link>
		<dc:creator>uli's objets trouvés.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2005 05:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;This doesn&#039;t suck.&lt;/strong&gt;

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gapingvoid - a very radical advertising idea: business models that don&#039;t suck When I read this kind of stuff I am reminded of the words a global brand director a very large company once told me about agencies: &quot;Their business models suck and they&#039;r...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>This doesn’t suck.</strong></p>
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gapingvoid — a very radical advertising idea: business models that don’t suck When I read this kind of stuff I am reminded of the words a global brand director a very large company once told me about agencies: “Their business models suck and they’r…</p>
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		<title>By: brian moffatt</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2005/05/24/a-very-radical-advertising-idea-business-models-that-dont-suck/#comment-6161</link>
		<dc:creator>brian moffatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 05:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, it also requires a mature aesthetic sense.
Case study: Upstart airline. Research indicates customers love the experience of flying X Air. Love it. Especially the leather seats available in first class and coach. Agency executes creative. TV AD: Frequent flyer is seen making love to leather seat. Sold to client as edgy. Airs. Customers hate it. HATE! Say they will not fly X Air again. Deluge of phone calls and email.  Problem: Yeah. (Solution: blogger, but that&#039;s beside the point.) Root cause: client had no one in a position that could explain to agency that, in love, there is a difference between eros and agape.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, it also requires a mature aesthetic sense.<br />
Case study: Upstart airline. Research indicates customers love the experience of flying X Air. Love it. Especially the leather seats available in first class and coach. Agency executes creative. TV AD: Frequent flyer is seen making love to leather seat. Sold to client as edgy. Airs. Customers hate it. HATE! Say they will not fly X Air again. Deluge of phone calls and email.  Problem: Yeah. (Solution: blogger, but that’s beside the point.) Root cause: client had no one in a position that could explain to agency that, in love, there is a difference between eros and agape.</p>
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		<title>By: David Burn</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2005/05/24/a-very-radical-advertising-idea-business-models-that-dont-suck/#comment-6160</link>
		<dc:creator>David Burn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 04:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work bringing it back around, Brian.
Agencies have been unhappy with the MBA-toting number crunchers they call clients for how long now? Too long.
Great advertising requires a serious leap of faith, and there are countless practitioners on and off Madison Avenue willing to take that leap, but so few clients willing to experience the rush with us. Not knowing if the shoot will open, they want the safest route home. And safe doesn&#039;t sell.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work bringing it back around, Brian.<br />
Agencies have been unhappy with the MBA-toting number crunchers they call clients for how long now? Too long.<br />
Great advertising requires a serious leap of faith, and there are countless practitioners on and off Madison Avenue willing to take that leap, but so few clients willing to experience the rush with us. Not knowing if the shoot will open, they want the safest route home. And safe doesn’t sell.</p>
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		<title>By: brian moffatt</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2005/05/24/a-very-radical-advertising-idea-business-models-that-dont-suck/#comment-6159</link>
		<dc:creator>brian moffatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 02:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apart from the &#039;it sucks&#039; business model, I&#039;ve always found client side has very little talent, or capacity, for judging/critiquing creative.
How many examples can I come up with this week?
So we now have this divergence, where perhaps in the beginning clients and creatives spoke the same language. Now, it would seem they&#039;re not even on the  same planet. Which is so odd. Corporation to corporation. You&#039;d think, huh. Maybe, it&#039;s - to invoke a cliche - systemic. A circle of hate. We hate our customers. Our customers hate our ads. Our ad company hates us. The circle is complete.
Solution: form an ad agency peopled with credentialed Tibetan Buddhist monks only.
I&#039;ll send my $100,000 invoice for these thoughts.
By the way, Hughster, the T-shirt is great. Though, I got the XXXXXL and it&#039;s a bit tight. I must cut back on the weight lifting.
It arrived two biz days after I ordered it. Prrrrompt. And that was, like, the cheapo delivery option too.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apart from the ‘it sucks’ business model, I’ve always found client side has very little talent, or capacity, for judging/critiquing creative.<br />
How many examples can I come up with this week?<br />
So we now have this divergence, where perhaps in the beginning clients and creatives spoke the same language. Now, it would seem they’re not even on the  same planet. Which is so odd. Corporation to corporation. You’d think, huh. Maybe, it’s — to invoke a cliche — systemic. A circle of hate. We hate our customers. Our customers hate our ads. Our ad company hates us. The circle is complete.<br />
Solution: form an ad agency peopled with credentialed Tibetan Buddhist monks only.<br />
I’ll send my $100,000 invoice for these thoughts.<br />
By the way, Hughster, the T-shirt is great. Though, I got the XXXXXL and it’s a bit tight. I must cut back on the weight lifting.<br />
It arrived two biz days after I ordered it. Prrrrompt. And that was, like, the cheapo delivery option too.</p>
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		<title>By: solios</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2005/05/24/a-very-radical-advertising-idea-business-models-that-dont-suck/#comment-6158</link>
		<dc:creator>solios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 00:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear gods I want that cartoon on bizcards.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear gods I want that cartoon on bizcards.</p>
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		<title>By: James Cherkoff</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2005/05/24/a-very-radical-advertising-idea-business-models-that-dont-suck/#comment-6157</link>
		<dc:creator>James Cherkoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 23:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what happens if you don&#039;t bother with innovation for the best part of 50 years.
Despite telling their clients about the importance of innovation and change, the ad industry has mainly just stuck with the product it had in 1950.
Can you imagine any other corporate discipline getting away with that?  Imagine if the retail guys  continued to use the shop formats they were using in 1970.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s what happens if you don’t bother with innovation for the best part of 50 years.<br />
Despite telling their clients about the importance of innovation and change, the ad industry has mainly just stuck with the product it had in 1950.<br />
Can you imagine any other corporate discipline getting away with that?  Imagine if the retail guys  continued to use the shop formats they were using in 1970.</p>
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