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By: the porous membrane (cont.)

the porous membrane (cont.) — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 02:02:12 +0000

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By: hugh macleod

hugh macleod — Sat, 21 May 2005 23:13:44 +0000

Hello Again, Barb,
http://www.gapingvoid.com/Moveable_Type/archives/001172.html

By: sloan

sloan — Fri, 20 May 2005 02:44:37 +0000

most investors lack the TIME to fully understand whats going on in their companies. they read the semi-annual reports and thats about it. the everyday problems aren’t of consequence to the investor, the bottom-line is: continued success. for many, this success is evaluted based on net profit, return on investment, inventory turnover, etc… the well-being of a corporation is quantified with these financial insturments.
i simply cannot imagine the general public being able to see past these figures and understanding the entire business.

By: Jon Husband

Jon Husband — Thu, 19 May 2005 22:18:39 +0000

Let’s just start ith bettermore real conversations with customers, instead of trying to figure out how everything works first ? And is it fair or reasonable to say that what works in one situation or for one company is likely to be different at another, or that enhanced transparency, as a principle, is clearly a useful context in a number of important areas where it can be argued that customers and employees are really only separated by mouse clicks, links and interfaces ? The whys. the hows, the psychology and the language will follow — and keep being argued about.

By: sig

sig — Wed, 18 May 2005 20:17:36 +0000

Hugh, allow me an expansion of that:
Shareholders are twofold (dept. of simplified definitions): Long term ‘part owners’ and short term ‘market players’. Suspect the first category should have nicely aligned interests with the company, the latter though may have completely different plans

By: hugh macleod

hugh macleod — Wed, 18 May 2005 18:44:48 +0000

Sig has a point. What’s good for the shareholders isn’t always good for the business.

By: Brewed Fresh Daily

Brewed Fresh Daily — Wed, 18 May 2005 15:00:11 +0000

Porous?

Hugh MacLeod writes:[Each company’s market is divided into two parts, (A) the internal conversation within the company, and (B) the external conversation with the outside world. The ideally porous “x-membrane” seperates the two.]Go there for further ex…

By: sig

sig — Wed, 18 May 2005 14:47:47 +0000

Sloan, I beg to differ (not taking SEC etc. into account):
Giving the investors a balanced, regulated and limited diet like today works to a certain degree.
Letting them have an ad-hoc part truth is no good whichever way.
But the whole (really everything) truth? I wonder if not that would be better, although hard on the investor class.
At least it would rid us of any attempt to ‘cook’ books even within the framework of Sarbanes-Oxley, end-of-quarter sell-ins, mark-to-market and what else that is conductive to financials but not to long term operations.
And it is after all long term operations that is the base, not the finance department?

By: sloan

sloan — Wed, 18 May 2005 12:28:41 +0000

a public corporation couldn’t possibly do this. shareholders are very tempermental and must be pleased. telling them the WHOLE truth would lead to huge swings in value that spiral out of control. they’re too delicate.

By: MarkN

MarkN — Wed, 18 May 2005 05:21:35 +0000

Katherine, the problem is membranes whose sole justification for existence is the maintenance of hegemony. In other words, the reason all membranes exist.
The porosity conversation is really about making availability of XYZ (data, information, knowledge, business intel, etc.) the default rather than the exception. If a one group/faction or another doesn’t want the XYZ they won’t consume. But they’d always have the option.

By: Katherine

Katherine — Wed, 18 May 2005 03:32:37 +0000

Accounting is what my accounting guy is getting paid for, and presumably what he is good at. Marketing is what my marketing guy is getting paid for, and presumably what he is good at. Membranes exist in the first place so that specialists can focus on their expertise without having to worry about what everyone else is doing.
Crosspollination and conversations are good. Flooding people with more information than they need or want is bad. Membranes exist to maintain the balance between the two. Too porous a membrane is just as harmful as one that’s not porous enough.

By: Blogworks

Blogworks — Wed, 18 May 2005 02:54:00 +0000

The porous membrane

http://blog.wirearchy.com/ fame) in the comments to http://www.gapingvoid.com/Moveable_Type/archives/001576.html Sorry it took this long to find, Jon.

By: Tom Asacker

Tom Asacker — Tue, 17 May 2005 22:32:41 +0000

C’mon now. Don’t jump all over Barb.
Hugh … show her how this elimination of the membrane thing works and articulate how the following Hughtrain philosophies align with $3,000 suits:
* We are here to find meaning. We are here to help other people do the same. Everything else is secondary.
* Product benefit doesn’t excite us. Belief in humanity and human potential excites us.
* Think less about what your product does, and think more about human potential.
* What statement about humanity does your product make?
* People are not just getting more demanding as consumers, they are getting more demanding as spiritual entities. Branding is a spiritual exercise. These are The New Realities, this is the Spiritual Republic we now live in.