May 14, 2005

good conversations don’t care who start them

I’m not sure if I agree with Evelyn on this one:

Try put­ting your cus­to­mers and your ecosystem’s con­ver­sa­tions at the cen­ter of the hub — rather than your company’s. Even if it’s simply a con­cep­tual idea, it’ll radi­cally change the focus of your con­ver­sa­tion.
Mar­ke­ting is not all about get­ting out the com­pany story. Your cus­to­mers have sto­ries too.

Good con­ver­sa­tions don’t care who start them.

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9 Responses to “good conversations don’t care who start them”

  1. I think you’re right, Hugh. And, so is Evelyn.
    Good con­ver­sa­tions are good con­ver­sa­tions, regard­less of how they begin. In fact, in the best of them, tra­cing ori­gins, twists and turns is nearly impos­si­ble. (“Did she say that or did I? I for­get. Any­way…”)
    Even though it might not mat­ter who starts a con­ver­sa­tion, cus­to­mers’ “rela­tionships” with com­pa­nies have his­to­ri­cally been so one-sided that by step­ping back and let­ting the cus­to­mer lead the story, a com­pany can sig­nal an impor­tant change in perspective.

  2. hugh macleod says:

    Tom, agreed, up to a point.
    “Try put­ting your cus­to­mers and your ecosystem’s con­ver­sa­tions at the cen­ter of the hub.“
    A per­fectly nice sen­ti­ment, but like Henry Ford said, “If I had given the cus­to­mers what they asked for, I would’ve just given them fas­ter hor­ses.“
    Both “push” and “pull” are unsus­tai­na­ble. What’s effec­tive is a healthy ten­sion bet­ween the two.

  3. Yes, Hugh, the inno­va­tor doesn’t take dic­ta­tion from the cus­to­mer, for sure. Ins­tead, (s)he gets into the customer’s world and looks around for the oppor­tu­ni­ties that only inno­va­tors see.
    Two great ways to get into that world: 1) live there, 2) lis­ten to sto­ries about it.

  4. I read on a toi­let door in Glas­gow Bucha­nan Street Bus Sta­tion that Good Con­ver­sa­tions can be bought under the coun­ter at Mo’s 24hr store on Argy­lle Street.
    Can anyone con­firm?
    The soo­ner Blair makes ‘em avai­la­ble on the NHS, the better.

  5. Sam Ruby says:

    Sel­fish Memes

    [via Doc Searls]

  6. Tom has a great point. (Ah, I never said anything about giving cus­to­mers what they “say” they want.) I’m saying tune into THEIR con­ver­sa­tions — odds are they’re pro­bably not even dis­cus­sing your pro­duct directly but drop­ping valua­ble clues about what makes them tick.
    Another take (I was in a snarky mood when I wrote that piece): Have you ever gone a follow-up cof­fee date after a net­wor­king mee­ting and had that per­son blather on and on and on about them­sel­ves (think Christ­mas let­ters, blind dates too). After an hour they rea­lize and exc­laim: “Oh, my God, I’ve just been doing all the tal­king. So, tell me, what do you think about me so far?“
    Any­way, it’ll all become obvious in next few months. I’m going to demons­trate what I mean as con­cep­tually it’s a bit har­der to envision.

  7. Word that travels

    “Dell peo­ple buy com­pu­ters to get a job done. Apple users buy a com­pu­ter to make a sta­te­ment.” —Seth Godin
    It used to be that orga­ni­za­tions con­trol the story that goes around about them. Via press relea­ses and inter­views, and exp…

  8. Ed Brenegar says:

    Con­ver­sa­tions rise from rela­tionships, not from ecosys­tem hubs. What you com­pany has to offer is a rela­tionship bene­fit. Why do they bene­fit from kno­wing you rather than kno­wing some other per­son.
    One of the sig­ni­fi­cant cha­llen­ges lea­ders face is to move from abs­trac­tions to conc­rete appli­ca­tion. For many peo­ple who talk about con­ver­sa­tions, they are still an abs­tract. My busi­ness plan isn’t to fos­ter con­ver­sa­tions, but rather to esta­blish a mutually bene­fi­cial rela­tionship with someone. At the end of the con­ver­sa­tions, I want to know what I can do for them. Where’s the action resul­ting from the con­ver­sa­tion? Most of the time it means that the rela­tionship has progressed.

  9. While I Value Christ­mas Let­ter Busi­ness Blogs, Here’s Another Angle

    You’ve got to take what I said the other day with a grain of salt. Taking a page out of the Agile Mani­festo sty­le­guide: While I value tal­king, I value lis­te­ning more. From my com­ments on Hugh’s post:Another take (I