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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2005/05/11/beyond-models/#comment-5984</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 22:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sig, that would indeed be one scenarion ;-)
I would posit that so too would Jim&#039;s comment ...  how long will it be, in fact, before people working INSIDE organizations start asking questions, or observing that there the membranes are getting less opaque, more porous, better at osmosing ( ?? ) back and forth between customers and stakeholders and the inside people ?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sig, that would indeed be one scenarion <img src='http://gapingvoid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I would posit that so too would Jim’s comment …  how long will it be, in fact, before people working INSIDE organizations start asking questions, or observing that there the membranes are getting less opaque, more porous, better at osmosing ( ?? ) back and forth between customers and stakeholders and the inside people ?</p>
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		<title>By: jim wilde</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2005/05/11/beyond-models/#comment-5983</link>
		<dc:creator>jim wilde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 19:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sig,
Thanks for the comment you left the other day. Anyway, the problems with &quot;rigid models&quot; are entrenched management, employees (fear and apathy) and vendors (IBM, MS et al). Nothing short of a revolution will get them out of the way; even when it is in their best interest to use a better solution - they do nothing. Look at Firefox. The rate of adoption in IT is hardly making a dent.
On the other hand, market forces (globalization, hedge funds, m&amp;a, director liability, etc.) are forcing organizations to get their heads out of their asses. Is this a revolution? I hope so.
With my own product/service &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.advancinginsights.com/mybiz/?q=summary_of_site&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
- Ideascape - &lt;/a&gt;, I am trying to loosen the internal boundaries within corporate departments by encouraging companies to use the technologies that are being used now (and leaving it open to institute other technologies (open API&#039;S) as they emerge and suit the need)to share information, to in some cases, START the conversation, internally.  It&#039;s amazing how little conversation goes on within companies.  I know someone who worked in an HR department for a company for a year before she even knew what product/service the company offered!  PEOPLE can be so focused on the task at hand and in getting their paperwork done that they don&#039;t join in conversations in the office next door, let alone in the &quot;corporate conversation&quot; if that even exists.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sig,<br />
Thanks for the comment you left the other day. Anyway, the problems with “rigid models” are entrenched management, employees (fear and apathy) and vendors (IBM, MS et al). Nothing short of a revolution will get them out of the way; even when it is in their best interest to use a better solution — they do nothing. Look at Firefox. The rate of adoption in IT is hardly making a dent.<br />
On the other hand, market forces (globalization, hedge funds, m&amp;a, director liability, etc.) are forcing organizations to get their heads out of their asses. Is this a revolution? I hope so.<br />
With my own product/service <a href="http://www.advancinginsights.com/mybiz/?q=summary_of_site" rel="nofollow"><br />
– Ideascape — </a>, I am trying to loosen the internal boundaries within corporate departments by encouraging companies to use the technologies that are being used now (and leaving it open to institute other technologies (open API’S) as they emerge and suit the need)to share information, to in some cases, START the conversation, internally.  It’s amazing how little conversation goes on within companies.  I know someone who worked in an HR department for a company for a year before she even knew what product/service the company offered!  PEOPLE can be so focused on the task at hand and in getting their paperwork done that they don’t join in conversations in the office next door, let alone in the “corporate conversation” if that even exists.</p>
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		<title>By: Forthcoming</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2005/05/11/beyond-models/#comment-5985</link>
		<dc:creator>Forthcoming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 18:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;great wall of opportunity!&lt;/strong&gt;

Excellent discussion on models here and here that prompted an aha! for the slow-witted yours truly: Not only do one face
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>great wall of opportunity!</strong></p>
<p>Excellent discussion on models here and here that prompted an aha! for the slow-witted yours truly: Not only do one face</p>
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		<title>By: sig</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2005/05/11/beyond-models/#comment-5982</link>
		<dc:creator>sig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 14:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, that discussion I would hope would be boring, like windmills vs. electricty today?
:-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, that discussion I would hope would be boring, like windmills vs. electricty today? <img src='http://gapingvoid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2005/05/11/beyond-models/#comment-5981</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 08:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone care to venture into a little spot of short-form scenario planning ?
What would this conversation about rigid models, standard management wisdom and methodologies and monolithic stacks of enterprise software look like in June 2015 ?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone care to venture into a little spot of short-form scenario planning ?<br />
What would this conversation about rigid models, standard management wisdom and methodologies and monolithic stacks of enterprise software look like in June 2015 ?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Dyck</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2005/05/11/beyond-models/#comment-5980</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Dyck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 08:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mind you, all software is limitlessly customizable. See Dilbert: &lt;a href=&quot;http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20050508.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20050508.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20050508.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mind you, all software is limitlessly customizable. See Dilbert: <a href="http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20050508.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20050508.html" rel="nofollow">http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20050508.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2005/05/11/beyond-models/#comment-5979</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 07:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh yes. God bless Radio 3.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh yes. God bless Radio 3.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Handy</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2005/05/11/beyond-models/#comment-5978</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Handy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 07:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know full well that if you &quot;stuck to cartooning&quot;, your cartoons would start to suck.  But I didn&#039;t have to tell you that.  :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know full well that if you “stuck to cartooning”, your cartoons would start to suck.  But I didn’t have to tell you that.  <img src='http://gapingvoid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Dodds</title>
		<link>http://gapingvoid.com/2005/05/11/beyond-models/#comment-5977</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Dodds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 06:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has this anything to do with BBC Backstage? See it now - fantastic.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has this anything to do with BBC Backstage? See it now — fantastic.</p>
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