May 3, 2005

seth and the wine biz

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1. One of my clients is in the wine busi­ness.
He hired me, soon after dis­co­ve­ring The Hugh­train PDF on Chan­geThis, a site foun­ded by mar­ke­ting grand­mas­ter Seth Godin.
2. Around the same time, I was asked by Seth to read and review a copy of his latest book, “All Mar­ke­ters Are Liars”, which I really, really liked.
3. These two events ended up tur­ning into a coin­ci­dence, of sorts.
4. Early on in the wine gig I was asked to go to the local super­mar­ket check out the wine aisle, and report my first impres­sions.
5. I came back and repor­ted my fin­dings: “When you look at them on the shel­ves, most of them aren’t telling a story.“
6. The key theme in Seth’s book is the impor­tance of story­te­lling as a mar­ke­ting tool.
7. Sure, there’s been dis­cus­sions about buil­ding a blog to sell wine, but the more I thought about it, the more con­vin­ced I became that the bottle on the shelf has to tell the story, in 3 seconds or less. The blog could come after, but not till the story on the shelf was wor­king.
8. Most of the peo­ple rea­ding this are pretty aspi­ra­tio­nal. We like to occa­sio­nally pic­ture our­sel­ves as edu­ca­ted and sophis­ti­ca­ted. Like we actually know the dif­fe­rence bet­ween Mer­lot and Mus­cu­det. That we actually know why vin­tage mat­ters, and why it doesn’t (it doesn’t, nine times out of ten, by the way).
9. So how do you tell a story to this kind of per­son?
10. Next time you’re in the super­mar­ket, see which labels/bottles/brands are tele­graphing their story. The ones that do this well, in 3 seconds or less, you notce are given pre­fe­ren­tial shelf space to the the ones that are “just there”.
11. It hap­pens that way for a rea­son– doesn’t mat­ter if we’re tal­king super­mar­ket shel­ves or inside the minds of human beings. Bet­ter story equals bet­ter pla­ce­ment.
12. What’s your story?

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26 Responses to “seth and the wine biz”

  1. My story? I’m a geek.
    How boring.

  2. I just read an inte­res­ting article on wine in Time. I believe it was in the exten­ded inter­na­tio­nal busi­ness sec­tion on how Ernest Gallo mar­kets wine. The link is http://www.time.com/time/insidebiz/article/0,9171,1056313,00.html but not wor­king for unk­nown rea­sons The big insight was that by chan­ging the tra­di­tio­nal label of French wine, they could dra­ma­ti­cally inc­rease sales. The new label clearly tells a story — the wine is called Red Bicyc­lette and the label evo­kes the image of bicycle riding in the French countryside.

  3. hugh macleod says:

    That’s EXACTLY what I’m tal­king about, Jayme =)

  4. Why need a wrist watch?

    Why do we need to wear a wrist watch, while we check time in our mobile?

  5. Pat says:

    Through price into the mix as well. You desc­ri­bed my wine buying exactly except I rarely buy wine for myself it is usually to give as a gift or if we are having peo­ple over. So the price is part of the story that it tells, too. I want to be able to afford it but I don’t want to appear cheap. The $10 wine might taste bet­ter but the $30 bottle is what I am buying.

  6. Pat says:

    I sup­pose I meant throw price into the mix, ins­tead of through price into the mix.

  7. Howard Mann says:

    Tito’s Vodka in Texas has spread their word almost exc­lu­si­vely on their story.
    http://www.titos-vodka.com/
    It’s not wine… but I think you will find that they have told their story in a way that is a)worth repea­ting to others and b) allows the buyer to feel they are “in the know.” when they tell it.
    Food (or Vodka) for thought.

  8. An anec­dote: Dan Pink, author of A Whole New Mind, sez that on a recent excur­sion shop­ping for wine and loo­king at the back labels (mostly lis­ting the same old tech­ni­ca­li­ties) to make his choice, he noted that the Two Brothers label stood out for their per­so­nal story.
    This is basi­cally the story on the label:
    “Two Brothers Winery, a part­nership bet­ween brothers Erik and Alex Bartho­lo­maus, relea­sed their debut wine, Big Tat­too Red 2001, in autumn of 2002 as a way to raise funds for can­cer research and Hos­pice care in memory of their mother, Liliana S. Bartho­lo­maus.
    Alex Bartho­lo­maus, Pre­si­dent and C.E.O. of Billing­ton Imports in Spring­field, Va., crea­ted this uni­que blend in Chile. Alex then tea­med up with his brother Erik, an esta­blished world-traveling tat­too artist, to design a fun label that would remind the two of their mother. Erik desig­ned the label and they named their crea­tion Big Tat­too Red.
    Fifty cents from every bottle sold was dona­ted to the Hos­pice of Arling­ton, Va., and other breast can­cer research foun­da­tions in the name of Liliana S. Bartho­lo­maus. The two sold 13,835 cases of the 2001 debut vin­tage and rai­sed $83,010 to donate to Can­cer research and sup­port. The 2002 vin­tage was relea­sed in June, and the brothers were able to raise $300,000 in dona­tions.“
     – http://www.bigtattoored.com/about/

  9. Oops, for­get he said that the story was enough to get him to try initially…but the pro­duct itself would have to be good to buy it again.

  10. Tom says:

    In the NY State Fin­ger­la­kes Area there’s Bully Hill, which was star­ted by a mem­ber of the Tay­lor family, Wal­ter S. Tay­lor, after being thrown out of the com­pany his family foun­ded by the new owners, Coca-Cola.
    He had publi­cally denoun­ced some of the prac­ti­ces they were using (adding sugar, mixing in Cali­for­nia bulk “tank car” wines). He bought back the family’s ori­gi­nal estate and began making his own wine, based on French-American hybrid gra­pes. The wines were pri­ced higher than most NY State wines of the time (late 70’s, early-mid 80’s) and dif­fi­cult to get hold of due to limi­ted supply.
    At one point, he lost the right to put his last name on the bott­les, since Tay­lor was a name owned by Coke, and bott­les with his name blac­ked out were even more highly pri­zed. The wine had that “stic­king it to the man” aura that appea­led to a lot of peo­ple.
    There are a great many Fin­ger­la­kes wine­ries now, most of which grow French (not hybrid) gra­pes, so Bully Hill has become one of many, but none have the history.

  11. Tony Goodson says:

    Maga­zi­nes have 1 second to tell a story on their front cover, so I sug­gest pic­tu­res of Jes­sica Simp­son and Jen­ni­fer Anis­ton on the wine bottle should do the trick!

  12. Andrew says:

    OK first, vin­tage DOES mat­ter on Ports. Not on a lot else agreed, but don’t paint all gra­pes as exactly the same. Seriously. I really believe that. There is a dif­fe­rence.
    Telling a story in 3X5 inches. Seems like he hired the right guy as mas­ter of the busi­ness card comic.
    Not many wines tell a story from my brow­sing of the shel­ves. I think its funny to con­si­der the “two buck chuck” as a story not on the wine label itself but an inte­gral story to its sales none the less. First word of mouth on what a good deal it is and the catchy saying “two buck chuck” goes a long way. Then there is an added story of him stic­king it to his X-wife by selling it so cheap which I don’t believe for a second. For those that don’t know two buck chuck is Char­les Shaw wine that is a not bad, ~really~ cheap, mas­sed pro­du­ced wine only sold at Tra­der Joes. Now there is a good retai­ler who knows a good story when they see one.

  13. Brock Tice says:

    I also have seen and purcha­sed the Two Brothers wine, but I had heard about it before. Other inte­res­ting wines with sto­ries that you may or may not have heard of are the Fat Bas­tard series of French wines, a wine called Big House Red ( and White ) which may not have a story but it has a nice pic­ture of a pri­son on the front, and a good pun in the title.
    Wines are so dryly labe­led that at this point a story isn’t even neces­sary to stand out. One just has to take one­self a little less seriously than the rest, and it’s noti­cea­ble.
    Not that a story isn’t valua­ble — it is — it’s just that the space seems pretty dull at the moment, even though the wines may be great.

  14. Brock Tice says:

    P.S. — Big Tat­too Red is decent, and cheap. I have had it before, and I have another bottle sit­ting on my wine rack right now.

  15. frosty says:

    Wow, so much food (drink) for thought here!
    First let me say that I love Two Buck Chuck and drink lots of it whe­ne­ver I’m in Cali­for­nia. But that’s a pretty uni­que phe­no­me­non, at least so far.
    I was just buying wine in an unfa­mi­liar shop today and had to deal with exactly this pro­blem. If you aren’t lucky enough to be in the high end of the mar­ket, where the wine shop tells your story for you, I think you have two main ways to tell your story to someone who doesn’t know your wine:
    1) The shape of the bottle.
    2) The label.
    The shape is less impor­tant but having a less com­mon bottle shape, without being gaudy, can really help a wine stand out on a shelf of simi­lar wines.
    The label of course is the main point. Unless I’m buying wine from a vine­yard I know, I do care about the label, cons­ciously and sub­cons­ciously. Cons­ciously, I look for:
    + Com­pe­tent and pre­fe­rably bold graphic design. Because it draws my atten­tion, draws others’ atten­tion, and sug­gest the makers are proud of their wine. Bonus points for using good ori­gi­nal pic­tu­res by living, local artists.
    + Spe­ci­fic, up-front info on where, when and of what the wine was made. It doesn’t have to be any spe­ci­fic year or place or grape, but I know some good vint­ners and I know that the place, time and gra­pes are part of what makes it Wine — that is, what makes it a per­so­nal and human drink, not just alcoho­lic grape juice.
    + Spe­ci­fic, per­so­nal infor­ma­tion on who made it. Sure there are excep­tions, but I usually pre­fer to buy wine (and a lot of other things) from small pla­yers and fami­lies with a his­tory in the busi­ness.
    + A lack of pre­tense (for all that). If it says Cha­teau, it had bet­ter be French.
    This is all utterly uns­cien­ti­fic, and I’m sure I could get bet­ter wine values if I used some other sys­tem. But I enjoy buying wine, and for me part of the expe­rience is let­ting the wine tell its story through the bottle first, and through the glass later.
    2am, ram­bling after 12hrs of work, hope this isn’t totally incoherent.

  16. hugh macleod says:

    Another inte­res­ting stat… if the per­son in the super­mar­ket picks the wine off the shelf to look at the back label, it has a 50/50 chance of ending up in the shop­ping bas­ket.
    But “the moment of truth” comes before that.
    Both the bottle and label design are impor­tant for tele­graphing the story. Sure, you can tell the story in other media (Ads, TV, brochu­res etc)… but I sug­gest that 95 – 99% of the mar­ke­ting is done on the super­mar­ket shelf.
    The story we like on wine bott­les is the same kind we like anywhere else: fun, enter­tai­ning, smart, crea­tive, infor­ma­tive, use­ful, edif­ying, vali­da­ting, pas­sio­nate, autho­ri­ta­tive etc. etc.

  17. frosty says:

    PS, my brother buys wine with some regu­la­rity from Coo­per Garrod in Sara­toga, Cali­for­nia.
    They’re a little pri­cey but they have a great story: the guy who married into the family and built the wine busi­ness was a NASA test pilot for, oh, about a million years. Cool old cat, still leads tours.
    Good stuff. Awful web­site though: http://www.cgv.com/
    (Note to self: trade design for wine when in Cali­for­nia next.)

  18. frosty says:

    So if the shape and the front can get you your 50% chance of ending up in the bas­ket, the back had bet­ter follow up strong…
    Funny, right now I’m drin­king a decent cheap red (Nagy­gom­bos) whose front label grab­bed my atten­tion but was a little too gim­micky. The back label sold it — by being a serious coun­ter­point to the play­ful front.
    Now here’s a ques­tion:
    If every wine told its story boldly and well, but there were still 100 to choose from at the super­mar­ket, would it make things any easier?

  19. veedubya says:

    well “FAT BASTARD” cer­tainly cuts thru the clut­ter at my local Whole foods wine sec­tion. wine is alcohol. to sell alcohol you have to tune in to the “party” fre­quency and hit the right tone. give peo­ple permission/license to have a good time and get their buzz on. most wine labels are a pre­ten­tious drag and don’t help acce­le­rate choice/purchase.

  20. veedubya says:

    well “FAT BASTARD” cer­tainly cuts thru the clut­ter at my local Whole foods wine sec­tion. wine is alcohol. to sell alcohol you have to tune in to the “party” fre­quency and hit the right tone. give peo­ple permission/license to have a good time and get their buzz on. most wine labels are a pre­ten­tious drag and don’t help acce­le­rate choice/purchase.

  21. Pillow­men

    I saw a won­der­ful, power­ful show on Broad­way last night, Mar­tin McDonagh’s, The Pillowman.

  22. Egad. I just had a look at the bottle of wine I drank last night. It’s South Afri­can and called TRIBAL. Typi­cal green wine bottle, but the long slen­der label is all leo­pard skin pat­tern and a sty­li­zed gold spear
    “TRIBAL MERLOT 2003 A fruity Wes­tern Cape Mer­lot with fla­vours of ripe dark plum and black­berry, and accents of spice, pep­per and smoke. Light tan­nins, clean aci­dity and a good price make this an exce­llent part­ner for bar­be­cue ribs or chic­ken wings” — http://www.worldsofwine.com/articles/000093.html
    Knew none of this going in.
    Yes, the story? Uhhh…well…conotes long days on the plain poaching rhi­nos and then sett­ling back in the cool eve­ning, under the mos­qui­toe tent lis­te­ning to the dis­tant cooing of the cro­co­di­les , sip­ping on a Mer­lot and nib­bling on the ear of my con­cu­bine.
    I mean the label was yellow. I like a yellow label on a green bottle. And yeah, it was an impulse purchase — I fall into the 99% of peo­ple who buy crap based on the look of the thing, the pac­kage on the super­mar­ket shelf. Of course, if all were yellow, I’d go for the blue.

  23. Samsara Days says:

    Time for Some Lin­king Love

    Why? Because some­ti­mes, you gotta spread the love.

  24. pedant says:

    mus­ca­det, non?

  25. Dawn says:

    I’ve wor­ked in the wine industry in Ore­gon.
    “Mad Hou­se­wife” is a good local exam­ple of what you are tal­king about. Appeal to women…it’s where the growth is.
    http://www.winebusiness.com/html/MonthlyArticle.cfm?AId=99630&issueId=99603

  26. Jon winebrenner says:

    I can’t stop seeing a link bet­ween (most) everything you are saying on your blog and the Indus­trial Design industry. There seems to be a simi­lar revo­lu­tion [evo­lu­tion?] going on there as well.
    Your com­ments on story­te­lling rings par­ti­cu­larly true.
    Every heard of fuse­pro­ject in San Fran­cisco? Run by a guy named Yves Behar. His whole approach to pro­duct design is that it needs to tell a story.
    More an FYI, than an actual com­ment? Oh well.
    enjoy.
    Oh, my story? Seems that every­time I get past the rough draft I have to start over again.