Comments on: the “beyond lame” award http://gapingvoid.com/2005/03/27/the-beyond-lame-award/ "cartoons drawn on the back of business cards" Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:17:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Bill Hicks http://gapingvoid.com/2005/03/27/the-beyond-lame-award/#comment-4993 Bill Hicks Fri, 08 Apr 2005 05:38:15 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1353#comment-4993 "By the way if anyone here is in advertising or marketing... kill yourself. No, no, no it's just a little thought. I'm just trying to plant seeds. Maybe one day, they'll take root - I don't know. You try, you do what you can. Kill yourself. Seriously though, if you are, do. Aaah, no really, there's no rationalization for what you do and you are Satan's little helpers, Okay - kill yourself - seriously. You are the ruiner of all things good, seriously. No this is not a joke, you're going, "there's going to be a joke coming," there's no fucking joke coming. You are Satan's spawn filling the world with bile and garbage. You are fucked and you are fucking us. Kill yourself. It's the only way to save your fucking soul, kill yourself. Planting seeds. I know all the marketing people are going, "he's doing a joke... there's no joke here whatsoever. Suck a tail-pipe, fucking hang yourself, borrow a gun from a Yank friend - I don't care how you do it. Rid the world of your evil fucking machinations. I know what all the marketing people are thinking right now too, "Oh, you know what Bill's doing, he's going for that anti-marketing dollar. That's a good market, he's very smart." Oh man, I am not doing that. You fucking evil scumbags! "Ooh, you know what Bill's doing now, he's going for the righteous indignation dollar. That's a big dollar. A lot of people are feeling that indignation. We've done research - huge market. He's doing a good thing." Godammit, I'm not doing that, you scum-bags! Quit putting a godamm dollar sign on every fucking thing on this planet! "Ooh, the anger dollar. Huge. Huge in times of recession. Giant market, Bill's very bright to do that." God, I'm just caught in a fucking web! "Ooh the trapped dollar, big dollar, huge dollar. Good market - look at our research. We see that many people feel trapped. If we play to that and then separate them into the trapped dollar..." How do you live like that? And I bet you sleep like fucking babies at night, don't you?" /obligatory “By the way if anyone here is in advertising or marketing… kill yourself. No, no, no it’s just a little thought. I’m just trying to plant seeds. Maybe one day, they’ll take root — I don’t know. You try, you do what you can. Kill yourself. Seriously though, if you are, do. Aaah, no really, there’s no rationalization for what you do and you are Satan’s little helpers, Okay — kill yourself — seriously. You are the ruiner of all things good, seriously. No this is not a joke, you’re going, “there’s going to be a joke coming,” there’s no fucking joke coming. You are Satan’s spawn filling the world with bile and garbage. You are fucked and you are fucking us. Kill yourself. It’s the only way to save your fucking soul, kill yourself. Planting seeds. I know all the marketing people are going, “he’s doing a joke… there’s no joke here whatsoever. Suck a tail-pipe, fucking hang yourself, borrow a gun from a Yank friend — I don’t care how you do it. Rid the world of your evil fucking machinations. I know what all the marketing people are thinking right now too, “Oh, you know what Bill’s doing, he’s going for that anti-marketing dollar. That’s a good market, he’s very smart.” Oh man, I am not doing that. You fucking evil scumbags! “Ooh, you know what Bill’s doing now, he’s going for the righteous indignation dollar. That’s a big dollar. A lot of people are feeling that indignation. We’ve done research — huge market. He’s doing a good thing.” Godammit, I’m not doing that, you scum-bags!
Quit putting a godamm dollar sign on every fucking thing on this planet!
“Ooh, the anger dollar. Huge. Huge in times of recession. Giant market, Bill’s very bright to do that.” God, I’m just caught in a fucking web! “Ooh the trapped dollar, big dollar, huge dollar. Good market — look at our research. We see that many people feel trapped. If we play to that and then separate them into the trapped dollar…” How do you live like that? And I bet you sleep like fucking babies at night, don’t you?“
/obligatory

]]> By: Johnnie Moore's Weblog http://gapingvoid.com/2005/03/27/the-beyond-lame-award/#comment-4999 Johnnie Moore's Weblog Sat, 02 Apr 2005 15:39:07 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1353#comment-4999 <strong>Who is behind the Office Max blog?</strong> I just got linked from the Office-Max blog. It seems to be some kind of corporate blog but there is no "about" page or any clue as to its author. There are frequent gratuitous references to visiting Office-Max which would... Who is behind the Office Max blog?

I just got linked from the Office-Max blog. It seems to be some kind of corporate blog but there is no “about” page or any clue as to its author. There are frequent gratuitous references to visiting Office-Max which would…

]]> By: jeff http://gapingvoid.com/2005/03/27/the-beyond-lame-award/#comment-4992 jeff Wed, 30 Mar 2005 09:11:24 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1353#comment-4992 The idea is unpleasant to veteran bloggers but it is a creative idea nonetheless. It is surely more creative than showing Britney Spears drinking pepsi, or showing a bunch of alcoholics ignoring the hot chick and fighting over beer instead. I DO agree that it's a big no-no for the establishment to encroach into the blogosphere. Similary, it was a big no-no when commercial interests discovered the internet and started using it. People with a "private" club, don't like the mainstream coming in. Therefore the opinions are clouded and no one sees that the adervtising idea to use a Blog is quite a creative one after all (and look at all you talking about it - further driving its popularity. I never would have heard about it if you bloggers weren't screaming about it. You are free publicity and free RSS in a way, driving lots of traffic to the "fake" blog. Cheers! The idea is unpleasant to veteran bloggers but it is a creative idea nonetheless. It is surely more creative than showing Britney Spears drinking pepsi, or showing a bunch of alcoholics ignoring the hot chick and fighting over beer instead. I DO agree that it’s a big no-no for the establishment to encroach into the blogosphere.
Similary, it was a big no-no when commercial interests discovered the internet and started using it.
People with a “private” club, don’t like the mainstream coming in. Therefore the opinions are clouded and no one sees that the adervtising idea to use a Blog is quite a creative one after all (and look at all you talking about it — further driving its popularity. I never would have heard about it if you bloggers weren’t screaming about it.
You are free publicity and free RSS in a way, driving lots of traffic to the “fake” blog.
Cheers!

]]> By: Micro Persuasion http://gapingvoid.com/2005/03/27/the-beyond-lame-award/#comment-4998 Micro Persuasion Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:05:18 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1353#comment-4998 <strong>Blogging Like a Druken Sailor</strong> Captain Morgan - the cartoon character behind the rum - has started a blog. Hugh Macleod sums up why it's so lame. Follow the conversation here. Blogging Like a Druken Sailor

Captain Morgan — the cartoon character behind the rum — has started a blog. Hugh Macleod sums up why it’s so lame. Follow the conversation here.

]]> By: steven streight aka vaspers the grate http://gapingvoid.com/2005/03/27/the-beyond-lame-award/#comment-4991 steven streight aka vaspers the grate Wed, 30 Mar 2005 05:20:37 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1353#comment-4991 Er, a cartoon you have to explain is a failure as a cartoon. Aren't cartoons supposed to be immediately funny...without a lot of post-spectral, pre-deconstructionist analysis? I don't see how the cartoon has anything to do with advertising, but I do see that the cartoon is guilty of that which it allegedly is accusing "marketers" of: wanting the target audience to go along with their ill-considered program. Just my two million cents. Er, a cartoon you have to explain is a failure as a cartoon.
Aren’t cartoons supposed to be immediately funny…without a lot of post-spectral, pre-deconstructionist analysis?
I don’t see how the cartoon has anything to do with advertising, but I do see that the cartoon is guilty of that which it allegedly is accusing “marketers” of: wanting the target audience to go along with their ill-considered program.
Just my two million cents.

]]> By: anon http://gapingvoid.com/2005/03/27/the-beyond-lame-award/#comment-4990 anon Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:15:13 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1353#comment-4990 Good comment E@L. Further to your explanation, these two men being involved in these activities is purely a power issue, not a sexual issue, regardless of their sexual orientation. Just as rape is a power issue, so is taking it up the ass and sucking cock a sign of submission. When is rape not sex? When are these two guys' activities not sex? Dominance is perceived as giving it, submission as taking it - whether straight or gay. Historically, straight men, and other species of males, have raped other men to confirm their dominance over them. The penis is used as a power tool. Good comment E@L. Further to your explanation, these two men being involved in these activities is purely a power issue, not a sexual issue, regardless of their sexual orientation. Just as rape is a power issue, so is taking it up the ass and sucking cock a sign of submission. When is rape not sex? When are these two guys’ activities not sex? Dominance is perceived as giving it, submission as taking it — whether straight or gay. Historically, straight men, and other species of males, have raped other men to confirm their dominance over them. The penis is used as a power tool.

]]> By: expat@large http://gapingvoid.com/2005/03/27/the-beyond-lame-award/#comment-4989 expat@large Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:37:29 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1353#comment-4989 Um. Cartoon is very very funny. Not offensive. Much. Explanation for thickslab - For me, in order for the joke to work we have to assume that we have two HETEROSEXUAL guys admitting that are prepared to do things that would not be in their preferred style of sexual encounters, just for advancement at their place of work - in fact given the sexual predator types that take up advertising (he said, getting into even deeper sterotypecasting) quite out of character for what you'd expect. They are literally prostituting themselves, and doing things they wouldn't ordinarily do, for the sake of their advertising careers. And, here's another twist, they are admitting as such, blatantly, to each other, in public - thereby saying that this sort of stuff is what goes on - drives, in fact - the advertising industry. So the cartoon is turning the tables on what is our expectation of their behaviour, and making a comment on what the need for greed can to our sense of what constitutes usual behaviour. It's called humour. Get yourself a sense of. And the cartoon is almost as funny when I explain it. Not. But - the purpose of the post: to hang it on "The Captain's Blog" website actually falls flat, because, like I said, um. It is not a blog, however you stretch that definition. Doesn't seem to even pretend to be a blog. Just an another pre-cluetrain advertising site, using a PUN as a catch-all. (I sure wanna get pssed and run over some children on the street after viewing it.) Captain's Log Captain's Blog - geddit? I know you do. Others may not. E@L Um.
Cartoon is very very funny. Not offensive. Much.
Explanation for thickslab — For me, in order for the joke to work we have to assume that we have two HETEROSEXUAL guys admitting that are prepared to do things that would not be in their preferred style of sexual encounters, just for advancement at their place of work — in fact given the sexual predator types that take up advertising (he said, getting into even deeper sterotypecasting) quite out of character for what you’d expect. They are literally prostituting themselves, and doing things they wouldn’t ordinarily do, for the sake of their advertising careers. And, here’s another twist, they are admitting as such, blatantly, to each other, in public — thereby saying that this sort of stuff is what goes on — drives, in fact — the advertising industry.
So the cartoon is turning the tables on what is our expectation of their behaviour, and making a comment on what the need for greed can to our sense of what constitutes usual behaviour.
It’s called humour. Get yourself a sense of.
And the cartoon is almost as funny when I explain it. Not.
But — the purpose of the post: to hang it on “The Captain’s Blog” website actually falls flat, because, like I said, um.
It is not a blog, however you stretch that definition. Doesn’t seem to even pretend to be a blog. Just an another pre-cluetrain advertising site, using a PUN as a catch-all. (I sure wanna get pssed and run over some children on the street after viewing it.)
Captain’s Log Captain’s Blog — geddit?
I know you do. Others may not.
E@L

]]> By: Mostly Muppet Dot Com http://gapingvoid.com/2005/03/27/the-beyond-lame-award/#comment-4997 Mostly Muppet Dot Com Tue, 29 Mar 2005 23:53:08 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1353#comment-4997 <strong>Geico Blogging</strong> With all the Hughtrain chatter about Captain Morgan and his new, ridiculous blog, I thought I'd offer up a suggestion to a potential blogger, Geico, before they start. Blog well, blog often, and for heaven's sake, dont' let the gecko blog. Oh wait, y... Geico Blogging

With all the Hughtrain chatter about Captain Morgan and his new, ridiculous blog, I thought I’d offer up a suggestion to a potential blogger, Geico, before they start. Blog well, blog often, and for heaven’s sake, dont’ let the gecko blog. Oh wait, y…

]]> By: Jon http://gapingvoid.com/2005/03/27/the-beyond-lame-award/#comment-4988 Jon Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:17:09 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1353#comment-4988 I think the idea is these guys are not homosexuals, but are doing this anyway. It's punch comes from the thought that they're NOT gay. This is about prostituting oneself, not being gay. I think the idea is these guys are not homosexuals, but are doing this anyway. It’s punch comes from the thought that they’re NOT gay. This is about prostituting oneself, not being gay.

]]> By: thickslab http://gapingvoid.com/2005/03/27/the-beyond-lame-award/#comment-4987 thickslab Tue, 29 Mar 2005 04:16:00 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1353#comment-4987 Call me clueless, but I fail to see how it does anything other than suggest that homosexuality is something to be laughed at or derided. Perhaps someone can explain the joke here to me. Call me clueless, but I fail to see how it does anything other than suggest that homosexuality is something to be laughed at or derided. Perhaps someone can explain the joke here to me.

]]> By: Vy Blog http://gapingvoid.com/2005/03/27/the-beyond-lame-award/#comment-4996 Vy Blog Tue, 29 Mar 2005 03:15:36 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1353#comment-4996 <strong>Captain Morgan: beyond lame</strong> Hugh gives the Captain Morgan: beyond lame

Hugh gives the

]]> By: Keith http://gapingvoid.com/2005/03/27/the-beyond-lame-award/#comment-4986 Keith Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:15:41 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1353#comment-4986 For fifteen years, I worked in the ad biz--a snake pit of the biggest assholes on earth. The ad execs are sociopaths and total shits that will say and do anything. Hugh, the cartoon is right on. It also happens to be my favorite. To anyone that is offended by this cartoon; grow up. It's an elegant comment on the ad biz. For fifteen years, I worked in the ad biz–a snake pit of the biggest assholes on earth. The ad execs are sociopaths and total shits that will say and do anything.
Hugh, the cartoon is right on. It also happens to be my favorite. To anyone that is offended by this cartoon; grow up. It’s an elegant comment on the ad biz.

]]> By: Peter Orosz http://gapingvoid.com/2005/03/27/the-beyond-lame-award/#comment-4985 Peter Orosz Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:30:40 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1353#comment-4985 Jonathan: think metaphorical. Hugh is not talking about homosexual relationships between consenting adults here. Quite the contrary. Also, it's fucking funny. Jonathan: think metaphorical. Hugh is not talking about homosexual relationships between consenting adults here. Quite the contrary.
Also, it’s fucking funny.

]]> By: Chris H. http://gapingvoid.com/2005/03/27/the-beyond-lame-award/#comment-4984 Chris H. Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:03:26 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1353#comment-4984 uuummm I think Hugh is saying that the ad industry is demeaning and something to be laughed at, not gay people. As someone wo has worked in a related field, I laugh my ass off whenever I see this cartoon. uuummm I think Hugh is saying that the ad industry is demeaning and something to be laughed at, not gay people. As someone wo has worked in a related field, I laugh my ass off whenever I see this cartoon.

]]> By: thickslab http://gapingvoid.com/2005/03/27/the-beyond-lame-award/#comment-4983 thickslab Mon, 28 Mar 2005 03:59:23 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1353#comment-4983 I agree with Jonathan. This cartoon is the kind of thing one would expect from a ten year old. Not funny. I agree with Jonathan. This cartoon is the kind of thing one would expect from a ten year old. Not funny.

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