Comments on: blogging r.o.i. http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/23/blogging-r-o-i/ "cartoons drawn on the back of business cards" Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:17:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Marketing for Nerds http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/23/blogging-r-o-i/#comment-3957 Marketing for Nerds Thu, 02 Mar 2006 00:00:04 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1212#comment-3957 <strong>Blogging & ROI</strong> gapingvoid.comThe Holy Grail of Business Blogging: ROI [da: blogthenticity.com]BlogVertising [da: bazaarz.com]Blogvertising, advertising is dead [da: gapingvoid.com]Blogvertising: advertising young Adam [da: gapingvoid.com]Corporate Blogs: Measure Thei Blogging & ROI

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]]> By: Steve Griffiths http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/23/blogging-r-o-i/#comment-3956 Steve Griffiths Tue, 25 Jan 2005 01:04:25 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1212#comment-3956 Remember, Malevocorp Inc. is as thick as pig shit. What does young Mr Void present to them as indicators of the projected tangible benefits that a blog would contribute to their loathsome tumescence? For example, would it be possible to provide a projected time line identifying milestones of an obvious translation into sales, service lines or sub contracting work for Malevocorp? How could the success of the blog be monitored other than visitors and referals? Are there precedents yet? Remember, Malevocorp Inc. is as thick as pig shit. What does young Mr Void present to them as indicators of the projected tangible benefits that a blog would contribute to their loathsome tumescence? For example, would it be possible to provide a projected time line identifying milestones of an obvious translation into sales, service lines or sub contracting work for Malevocorp? How could the success of the blog be monitored other than visitors and referals? Are there precedents yet?

]]> By: Shawn Lea http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/23/blogging-r-o-i/#comment-3955 Shawn Lea Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:07:42 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1212#comment-3955 Deliverables (or measurables anyway) of blogs (done right): increased traffic to affiliated Web sites (assuming the blog is not the main Web site, sometimes it is), number of those subscribed to RSS feeds (thus receiving your company info everyday). Other ideas: blogs replacing weekly electronic newsletters, online press rooms, etc. Deliverable: providing information faster and better to customers, audiences, etc. Deliverables (or measurables anyway) of blogs (done right): increased traffic to affiliated Web sites (assuming the blog is not the main Web site, sometimes it is), number of those subscribed to RSS feeds (thus receiving your company info everyday). Other ideas: blogs replacing weekly electronic newsletters, online press rooms, etc. Deliverable: providing information faster and better to customers, audiences, etc.

]]> By: Steve Griffiths http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/23/blogging-r-o-i/#comment-3954 Steve Griffiths Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:52:26 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1212#comment-3954 My comments on the dreaded ROI and deliverables weren't meant to offend, I was simply curious as to the "crossover" (or should that be sneakover?) of the blogosphere into the world that keeps your kids in short pants and sweeties (i.e. the transition from sex to money Hugh). I'm a right brained scientist that has spent his life filling out proposals with my world changing ideas concerning how to thump proteins into vaccines and industrial machines. The reviewers will all ask -- what are the objectives, what are the milestones, will there be a product at the end of it? will there be a business? I would list the HughTrain and the How to be Creative MeisterWerks in my top 5 influences and your thoughts are part of my daily ritual. You have done so much to help me examine my way of "selling" important concepts to accountants and bureaucrats that have to review complicated scientific theories. I've pasted the HughTrain on my hobby art page <a href="http://www.shadowness.com/news.php?news_id=379." rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.shadowness.com/news.php?news_id=379." rel="nofollow">http://www.shadowness.com/news.php?news_id=379.</a></a> However I'd still like to play devil's advocate and get you to outline a pretend meeting with some corporate sociopaths where you outline what a blog is going to do for them better than a personal web page. But then, as my sibs have suggested above, who gives a feck? We're creative maaaannn...if you don't get it, kiss the ringpiece. My comments on the dreaded ROI and deliverables weren’t meant to offend, I was simply curious as to the “crossover” (or should that be sneakover?) of the blogosphere into the world that keeps your kids in short pants and sweeties (i.e. the transition from sex to money Hugh). I’m a right brained scientist that has spent his life filling out proposals with my world changing ideas concerning how to thump proteins into vaccines and industrial machines. The reviewers will all ask — what are the objectives, what are the milestones, will there be a product at the end of it? will there be a business? I would list the HughTrain and the How to be Creative MeisterWerks in my top 5 influences and your thoughts are part of my daily ritual. You have done so much to help me examine my way of “selling” important concepts to accountants and bureaucrats that have to review complicated scientific theories. I’ve pasted the HughTrain on my hobby art page http://www.shadowness.com/news.php?news_id=379.
However I’d still like to play devil’s advocate and get you to outline a pretend meeting with some corporate sociopaths where you outline what a blog is going to do for them better than a personal web page. But then, as my sibs have suggested above, who gives a feck? We’re creative maaaannn…if you don’t get it, kiss the ringpiece.

]]> By: hugh macleod http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/23/blogging-r-o-i/#comment-3953 hugh macleod Mon, 24 Jan 2005 06:29:16 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1212#comment-3953 ROI is dullsville. I think the question "what needs to happen" is far more interesting. ROI is dullsville.
I think the question “what needs to happen” is far more interesting.

]]> By: David Burn http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/23/blogging-r-o-i/#comment-3952 David Burn Mon, 24 Jan 2005 06:10:59 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1212#comment-3952 This whole ROI thing reared it's ugly head a month or so ago with the Bob Bly bashing blogs fiasco. I tired to persuade Bly (a noted author and direct marketing guru) that blogs build brands, whether it's the Gaping Void brand or GM's brand matters not. Thus, the ROI obsession needed to expand beyond merely numerical analyses. He didn't go for it. In fact, he wanted me to enroll in a direct marketing class and learn what making real money writing copy is all about. This whole ROI thing reared it’s ugly head a month or so ago with the Bob Bly bashing blogs fiasco.
I tired to persuade Bly (a noted author and direct marketing guru) that blogs build brands, whether it’s the Gaping Void brand or GM’s brand matters not. Thus, the ROI obsession needed to expand beyond merely numerical analyses.
He didn’t go for it. In fact, he wanted me to enroll in a direct marketing class and learn what making real money writing copy is all about.

]]> By: hugh macleod http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/23/blogging-r-o-i/#comment-3951 hugh macleod Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:17:00 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1212#comment-3951 I agree, Johnnie. I agree, Johnnie.

]]> By: Johnnie Moore http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/23/blogging-r-o-i/#comment-3950 Johnnie Moore Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:07:30 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1212#comment-3950 I hate that word "deliverables". The value of blogs is not gonna be put in a wheelbarrow and transported to for a bunch of autistic bean counters to measure. I don't bother arguing with people who go down this path. If you think the value of a blog can be put in a spreadsheet, you've completely missed the point. I hate that word “deliverables”. The value of blogs is not gonna be put in a wheelbarrow and transported to for a bunch of autistic bean counters to measure.
I don’t bother arguing with people who go down this path. If you think the value of a blog can be put in a spreadsheet, you’ve completely missed the point.

]]> By: hugh macleod http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/23/blogging-r-o-i/#comment-3949 hugh macleod Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:56:32 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1212#comment-3949 For worse. Superbowl ads are a joke. The only reason people take them seriously is because of the money involved. People will take anything seriously, if you pay them enough. The whole ad industry is a testament to that. For worse.
Superbowl ads are a joke. The only reason people take them seriously is because of the money involved.
People will take anything seriously, if you pay them enough. The whole ad industry is a testament to that.

]]> By: David Burn http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/23/blogging-r-o-i/#comment-3948 David Burn Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:49:24 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1212#comment-3948 I don't see it as either or. Superbowl ads, and TV ads in general, are here to stay (for better or worse). Blogs will merely be added to the long list of things brands do to promote themselves. I don’t see it as either or. Superbowl ads, and TV ads in general, are here to stay (for better or worse). Blogs will merely be added to the long list of things brands do to promote themselves.

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