January 23, 2005

blogging r.o.i.

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So in the post before this one, I say:

We already know that blog­ging works. But we also know that it con­flicts with some serioulsy well-entrenched busi­ness inte­rests: Big Media, Big Poli­tics, Big PR, Big Adver­ti­sing, Big ERP etc.
The idea that blogs have no ROI is ridi­cu­lous. The real issue is about whose terri­tory do blogs enc­roach on.

So in the com­ments, Steve says:

You’re still not satisf­ying your ear­lier query: when it comes to blogs what are the deli­ve­ra­bles? How will ROI become apparent?

So in the com­ments, I reply:

Steve, the “Deli­ve­ra­bles”? I have no idea. What are you inten­ding to deli­ver on your blog?
Lies? Pom­pous Waf­fle? PR crap?
Or do you intend to do something more inte­res­ting?
The ball’s in your court, not the $3000-per-day asshole consultant’s.
And as far as ROI is con­cer­ned, again, I have no idea. What are you actually willing to invest?
Your own time, energy, and emo­tion?
Or are you just hoping to hire some little cutey­pie part-time intern to futz around with the usal cor­po­ra­tes­peak on your company’s behalf?
Frankly, if peo­ple don’t get blogs, I really don’t care. They can go buy Super­bowl ads ins­tead. And in 5 years they can explain to their spou­ses why they no lon­ger have jobs.
That being said, the ROI/deliverable ques­tion will be ans­we­red like all ques­tions are ans­we­red in the blo­gosphere, when peo­ple start tal­king about it openly. It’s still early days, though.

My, I do like a good rant.

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10 Responses to “blogging r.o.i.”

  1. David Burn says:

    I don’t see it as either or. Super­bowl ads, and TV ads in gene­ral, are here to stay (for bet­ter or worse). Blogs will merely be added to the long list of things brands do to pro­mote themselves.

  2. hugh macleod says:

    For worse.
    Super­bowl ads are a joke. The only rea­son peo­ple take them seriously is because of the money invol­ved.
    Peo­ple will take anything seriously, if you pay them enough. The whole ad industry is a tes­ta­ment to that.

  3. I hate that word “deli­ve­ra­bles”. The value of blogs is not gonna be put in a wheel­ba­rrow and trans­por­ted to for a bunch of autis­tic bean coun­ters to mea­sure.
    I don’t bother arguing with peo­ple who go down this path. If you think the value of a blog can be put in a spreadsheet, you’ve com­ple­tely mis­sed the point.

  4. David Burn says:

    This whole ROI thing rea­red it’s ugly head a month or so ago with the Bob Bly bashing blogs fiasco.
    I tired to per­suade Bly (a noted author and direct mar­ke­ting guru) that blogs build brands, whether it’s the Gaping Void brand or GM’s brand mat­ters not. Thus, the ROI obses­sion nee­ded to expand beyond merely nume­ri­cal analy­ses.
    He didn’t go for it. In fact, he wan­ted me to enroll in a direct mar­ke­ting class and learn what making real money wri­ting copy is all about.

  5. hugh macleod says:

    ROI is dulls­vi­lle.
    I think the ques­tion “what needs to hap­pen” is far more interesting.

  6. My com­ments on the drea­ded ROI and deli­ve­ra­bles weren’t meant to offend, I was simply curious as to the “cros­so­ver” (or should that be snea­ko­ver?) of the blo­gosphere into the world that keeps your kids in short pants and swee­ties (i.e. the tran­si­tion from sex to money Hugh). I’m a right brai­ned scien­tist that has spent his life filling out pro­po­sals with my world chan­ging ideas con­cer­ning how to thump pro­teins into vac­ci­nes and indus­trial machi­nes. The revie­wers will all ask — what are the objec­ti­ves, what are the miles­to­nes, will there be a pro­duct at the end of it? will there be a busi­ness? I would list the Hugh­Train and the How to be Crea­tive Meis­ter­Werks in my top 5 influen­ces and your thoughts are part of my daily ritual. You have done so much to help me exa­mine my way of “selling” impor­tant con­cepts to accoun­tants and bureauc­rats that have to review com­pli­ca­ted scien­ti­fic theo­ries. I’ve pas­ted the Hugh­Train on my hobby art page http://www.shadowness.com/news.php?news_id=379.
    Howe­ver I’d still like to play devil’s advo­cate and get you to out­line a pre­tend mee­ting with some cor­po­rate socio­paths where you out­line what a blog is going to do for them bet­ter than a per­so­nal web page. But then, as my sibs have sug­ges­ted above, who gives a feck? We’re crea­tive maaaannn…if you don’t get it, kiss the ringpiece.

  7. Shawn Lea says:

    Deli­ve­ra­bles (or mea­su­ra­bles any­way) of blogs (done right): inc­rea­sed traf­fic to affi­lia­ted Web sites (assu­ming the blog is not the main Web site, some­ti­mes it is), num­ber of those subsc­ri­bed to RSS feeds (thus recei­ving your com­pany info every­day). Other ideas: blogs repla­cing weekly elec­tro­nic news­let­ters, online press rooms, etc. Deli­ve­ra­ble: pro­vi­ding infor­ma­tion fas­ter and bet­ter to cus­to­mers, audien­ces, etc.

  8. Remem­ber, Male­vo­corp Inc. is as thick as pig shit. What does young Mr Void pre­sent to them as indi­ca­tors of the pro­jec­ted tan­gi­ble bene­fits that a blog would con­tri­bute to their loath­some tumes­cence? For exam­ple, would it be pos­si­ble to pro­vide a pro­jec­ted time line iden­tif­ying miles­to­nes of an obvious trans­la­tion into sales, ser­vice lines or sub con­trac­ting work for Male­vo­corp? How could the suc­cess of the blog be moni­to­red other than visi­tors and refe­rals? Are there pre­ce­dents yet?

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