Comments on: determined detractor? moi? http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/18/determined-detractor-moi/ "cartoons drawn on the back of business cards" Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:03:19 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Jonathan Hardwick http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/18/determined-detractor-moi/comment-page-1/#comment-3832 Jonathan Hardwick Wed, 07 Sep 2005 05:30:47 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1192#comment-3832 <strong>More on Microsoft project codenames - and how we learn about other jobs at Microsoft</strong> After I wrote “How to create a new Microsoft product - first, choose a name...”, it was rather bizarre... More on Microsoft project codenames — and how we learn about other jobs at Microsoft

After I wrote “How to create a new Microsoft product — first, choose a name…”, it was rather bizarre…

]]> By: Jonathan Hardwick http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/18/determined-detractor-moi/comment-page-1/#comment-3831 Jonathan Hardwick Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:15:19 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1192#comment-3831 <strong>More on Microsoft project codenames - and how we learn about other jobs at Microsoft</strong> More on Microsoft project codenames — and how we learn about other jobs at Microsoft

]]> By: James Cherkoff http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/18/determined-detractor-moi/comment-page-1/#comment-3828 James Cherkoff Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:39:43 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1192#comment-3828 "Boring boring boring boring boring...." I reckon that counts as determined detraction. Like I say I don't think it's a bad thing. Reminds me of... "How handsome the Emperor's clothes are!" they all cried. "What a perfect fit! What marvelous colors!" No one would say that he could see nothing, for that would have proved him very stupid and unfit for his office. No clothes of the Emperor had ever been so much admired. "But he has nothing on!" said a little child. "Hush! Hush!" said its father. But the people began to whisper to one another what the child had said; "He has nothing on! A child says he has nothing on!" Soon all the people were saying aloud, "But, he has nothing on!" ;-) “Boring boring boring boring boring.…”
I reckon that counts as determined detraction. Like I say I don’t think it’s a bad thing.
Reminds me of…
“How handsome the Emperor’s clothes are!” they all cried. “What a perfect fit! What marvelous colors!”
No one would say that he could see nothing, for that would have proved him very stupid and unfit for his office. No clothes of the Emperor had ever been so much admired.
“But he has nothing on!” said a little child.
“Hush! Hush!” said its father.
But the people began to whisper to one another what the child had said; “He has nothing on! A child says he has nothing on!”
Soon all the people were saying aloud, “But, he has nothing on!” ;-)

]]> By: Modern Marketing - Collaborate Marketing Services http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/18/determined-detractor-moi/comment-page-1/#comment-3830 Modern Marketing - Collaborate Marketing Services Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:27:16 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1192#comment-3830 <strong>Still Determined Detractor No 1</strong> Hugh at Gaping Void seems a bit miffed at my description of him as Determined Detractor No 1. I don't know why. I think Determined Detraction is an admirable pastime. Still Determined Detractor No 1

Hugh at Gaping Void seems a bit miffed at my description of him as Determined Detractor No 1. I don’t know why. I think Determined Detraction is an admirable pastime.

]]> By: Ben http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/18/determined-detractor-moi/comment-page-1/#comment-3827 Ben Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:08:27 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1192#comment-3827 It's an inertia thing. Once a brand, concept, meme, whatever gets big enough, it gains its own inertia. Anyone working against that inertia gets mowed down, anyone working with the inertia gets pulled along. I think what wer'e seeing with blogs et al, is that the build up of inertia is happening a lot faster than it has previously (i.e. Kryptonite locks - the inertia got ahead of them). Given that the majority of people are gophers, inertia is very important to them, which adds more weight to why comanies are going to need 'players' to build the inertia (aka control the conversation). It’s an inertia thing. Once a brand, concept, meme, whatever gets big enough, it gains its own inertia.
Anyone working against that inertia gets mowed down, anyone working with the inertia gets pulled along.
I think what wer’e seeing with blogs et al, is that the build up of inertia is happening a lot faster than it has previously (i.e. Kryptonite locks — the inertia got ahead of them).
Given that the majority of people are gophers, inertia is very important to them, which adds more weight to why comanies are going to need ‘players’ to build the inertia (aka control the conversation).

]]> By: John D. Mitchell http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/18/determined-detractor-moi/comment-page-1/#comment-3826 John D. Mitchell Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:38:48 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1192#comment-3826 Emotionalizationalism stems from discomfort. The reactive polarization helps people rationalize their own emotional state (however irrational that may be :-). Emotionalizationalism stems from discomfort. The reactive polarization helps people rationalize their own emotional state (however irrational that may be :-) .

]]> By: Johnnie Moore's Weblog http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/18/determined-detractor-moi/comment-page-1/#comment-3829 Johnnie Moore's Weblog Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:58:32 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1192#comment-3829 <strong>Engage the resistance</strong> That's often the best way to deal with bloggers who criticise you. Talk to them. I just commented to Hugh, sometimes rudeness is just an angry person's way of saying hello...... Engage the resistance

That’s often the best way to deal with bloggers who criticise you. Talk to them. I just commented to Hugh, sometimes rudeness is just an angry person’s way of saying hello.…..

]]> By: Johnnie Moore http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/18/determined-detractor-moi/comment-page-1/#comment-3825 Johnnie Moore Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:55:58 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1192#comment-3825 I thought James (Modern Marketing) was intending his post as a compliment. For myself, I am learning that heated criticism may not be trouble... sometimes it's the way angry people say hello. I thought James (Modern Marketing) was intending his post as a compliment.
For myself, I am learning that heated criticism may not be trouble… sometimes it’s the way angry people say hello.

]]> By: alan herrell - the head lemur http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/18/determined-detractor-moi/comment-page-1/#comment-3824 alan herrell - the head lemur Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:42:17 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1192#comment-3824 Bummer dude! I guess you aren't good enough to be a 'Reputation Terrorist'. Which is the next level and the really big prize in personal opinion space I noted this article here <a href="http://theheadlemur.typepad.com/ravinglunacy/2004/12/bunker_marketin.html" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://theheadlemur.typepad.com/ravinglunacy/2004/12/bunker_marketin.html" rel="nofollow">http://theheadlemur.typepad.com/ravinglunacy/2004/12/bunker_marketin.html</a></a> But then the folks at modern marketing haven't been paying attention to what you have actually said. The good news here is that now you have been labeled you can introduce a 12 Step program of Recovery from determined detractorness and create an entire meme toward ferreting out DD's and stopping the fall of poor misguided consumers into the quagmire and ugly world of reputation terrorism. Bummer dude! I guess you aren’t good enough to be a ‘Reputation Terrorist’. Which is the next level and the really big prize in personal opinion space
I noted this article here
http://theheadlemur.typepad.com/ravinglunacy/2004/12/bunker_marketin.html
But then the folks at modern marketing haven’t been paying attention to what you have actually said.
The good news here is that now you have been labeled you can introduce a 12 Step program of Recovery from determined detractorness and create an entire meme toward ferreting out DD’s and stopping the fall of poor misguided consumers into the quagmire and ugly world of reputation terrorism.

]]> By: hugh macleod http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/18/determined-detractor-moi/comment-page-1/#comment-3823 hugh macleod Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:25:33 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1192#comment-3823 Thanks, Batalas =) Thanks, Batalas =)

]]> By: Batatas http://gapingvoid.com/2005/01/18/determined-detractor-moi/comment-page-1/#comment-3822 Batatas Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:10:31 +0000 http://gapingvoid.com/?p=1192#comment-3822 Hm... I guess because people have a dogmatic and religion-like fanatic obsession with those two brands. I work in IT (software testing), and I see a lot of deep geeks thrashing Apple just for the f*** of it. I haven't got that much experience with a Mac, but I'm willing to try, surely, why not? BTW, I've ordered 250 of your cards, love you sarcasm. Hm… I guess because people have a dogmatic and religion-like fanatic obsession with those two brands. I work in IT (software testing), and I see a lot of deep geeks thrashing Apple just for the f*** of it.
I haven’t got that much experience with a Mac, but I’m willing to try, surely, why not?
BTW, I’ve ordered 250 of your cards, love you sarcasm.

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