January 5, 2005

edward gorey

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My wee exchange with Rose yes­ter­day got me thin­king.
There’s a com­mon per­cep­tion in the West that the only way to become a finan­cially suc­cess­ful car­too­nist is to get the news­pa­per syn­di­ca­tes to pick you up. And as we all know, the lat­ter are EXTREMELY con­ser­va­tive.
These peo­ple have obviously never heard of Edward Gorey, one of my all-time favo­rite car­too­nists.
The thing about Gorey is, his work shifts a TON of pro­duct. But he’s still rela­ti­vely “beneath the radar”. Every­body thinks they’re the only one who’s heard of him. But you go into any decent bookshop and all the prime retail space is AWASH with Gorey pro­duct.
Mar­ke­ting a car­toon brand is like mar­ke­ting anything else. You can use a shot­gun, or you can use a sniper’s rifle. The choice is yours. Gorey chose the lat­ter. He com­ple­tely bypas­sed Big Media, and it wor­ked.
His exam­ple has always been a great ins­pi­ra­tion to me, both in terms of art and com­merce. It was while rea­ding him that I first really, really clic­ked with the impor­tance of “Crea­tive Sove­reignty”.
This is something the syn­di­ca­tes would know utterly nothing about, hence why so much of their pro­duct is sub-mediocre, lame-ass froth that nobody really cares about, inc­lu­ding, I sups­pect, the poor guys under con­tract to draw it.
Food for thought, methinks.

11 Responses to “edward gorey”

  1. andy says:

    Another per­son to con­si­der (and some would say along the same vein (but not me)) is Char­les Adams. Where as he didn’t move much pro­duct, he did get a lot of atten­tion, yet never did he com­pro­mise what he wan­ted to do. I’m sure he had his fair share of let­ters telling him he was bent and was going to go to hell, but he knew that for the most part peo­ple wan­ted something dif­fe­rent, and on the inside we all find Family Cir­cus even more bent.
    There are others, too, who may or may not have been syn­di­ca­ted who fell far outside of what peo­ple are cons­tantly told they want: “The rea­ders want tal­king ani­mals… go make it cuter… the rea­ders don’t want the word ‘penis’ in their fun­nies.” Really, though, it just comes from publishers being sca­red to death of doing something that might offend a tiny por­tion of their cus­to­mer base… dear god… they might lose a few of them!
    The inter­net is finally star­ting to live up to what I have always seen as it’s poten­tial, and by that I mean that it is beco­ming more and more of a plat­form of expres­sion. Syn­di­ca­tes, record con­tracts, publishing deals… they’ll all even­tually become irre­le­vant. They are already star­ting to lose their most power­ful para­digm in the public’s minds, which is that in order to be pro­fes­sio­nal; in order to be vali­da­ted; even in order to make any money, you must be excep­ted by them. They are mis­sing out on the new para­digms, the new models… and the best of the new con­ver­sa­tions.
    Any­way…
    I think that, yes, your lan­guage is a bit like a sai­lor some­ti­mes, but very rarely do I think your car­toons are truly base. More often, I think they’re fairly biting… espe­cially when they’re using the “naughty” lan­guage :) Basi­cally… you may have potty mouth, but it’s not bath­room humor.
    Also… as for Rose’s com­ment about “The loc­ker room with a bunch of guys,” it implies that your stuff is misogy­nist, and I haven’t felt that (and believe me, I hate any media that is).
    Well… I’m sure you didn’t need my encou­ra­ge­ment, but still… I wan­ted to let you know that you have a new fan (which is really biza­rre con­si­de­ring how much I hate the ad industry). Keep up the good work.

  2. YIR-BLOG says:

    gaping­void: edward gorey

    Here’s the latest entry from Hugh at Gaping Void. Thanks for pos­ting this, Hugh. Every car­too­nist should read it and think about it.
    gaping­void: edward gorey

  3. DJ Coffman says:

    Thanks so much so much for pos­ting about Gorey, Hugh.
    There have been recent uproars about the comic PvP, drawn by my friend Scott Kurtz, he offers his comics to news­pa­pers for free. Guess who got upset about that and told him it would never work? Syn­di­ca­ted car­too­nists. PvP gets millions of rea­ders a week. Lite­rally. And all these syn­di­ca­ted folks could do was belittle his work, calling him a t-shirt sales­man. Scott makes a living with his car­too­ning.
    Here’s a recent inter­view with Scott and he touches on the sub­ject. http://www.bigfanboy.com/pages/creators/kurtz2004/kurtz2004.html
    I can be the first to tell you that it wasnt pretty behind clo­sed doors. It got down­right ugly and name-calling aboun­ded. Wiley Miller of Non-Sequitar even took a stab at Scott in his daily comic.
    There are always those who want to rain on your parade.

  4. patricia says:

    Gorey is a great exam­ple of thin­king outside the car­toon box, Hugh. I love his work. And there are many other car­too­nists who took a simi­lar path, like Ronald Searle and Gerald Scarfe. The Brits do have a great talent for crea­ting biting, caus­tic, bri­lliant car­toon art.
    I think part of Rose’s pro­blem is that she is only thin­king of car­toons (and busi­ness) in one way, that is, the stan­dard syn­di­ca­ted car­too­nist that has to be con­cer­ned about not offen­ding peo­ple who read the fun­nies. With the advent of the inter­net and blogs and more inde­pen­dent publishing and the implo­sion of Graphic Novels, we no lon­ger have to adhere to a strict ‘clean code’ of mate­rial if we don’t want to. Even I have ven­tu­red into the more ‘adult the­med’ car­toon humour. I cer­tainly would never con­si­der trying to mar­ket this pro­duct to the syn­di­ca­tes. Either they wouldn’t take it, or the edi­tors would have to change it dras­ti­cally, which totally nega­tes what I was trying to create.
    http://members.rogers.com/pstormz/Tart1.html
    It’s obvious that Rose would not be one of your poten­tial clients. I would add, howe­ver, that not all syn­di­ca­ted comic strips in the papers are dull and con­ser­va­tive; some are quite edgy, which is quite a dif­fi­cult thing to do, con­si­de­ring some of the edi­to­rial res­traints they have. It takes a cer­tain kind of talent to work within such limi­ted boun­da­ries. Con­si­der the strips Get Fuzzy, Pearls Before Swine, Tina’s Groove, Monty and Non Sequi­tor for starters.

  5. Gorey was unde­niably a genius, and nothing makes me hap­pier than seeing calan­ders of his work on sale at Bor­ders and B&N. But the fact that he is gai­ning in recog­ni­tion pro­gres­si­vely is due to the dili­gence of his fans. WE’RE the ones making him popu­lar. Niche mar­ket brin­ging him into the mas­ses by sheer weight of growth.
    And really, genius will always breed suc­cess if there is a mar­ket for it.
    But that beg­gars the ques­tion of whether the current mar­ket­place allows for genius. Are we too satu­ra­ted with mediocre, con­ser­va­tive corporate-created works? Is it pos­si­ble to suc­ceed without their bac­king? Can the small fish com­pete with the sharks?
    Those are impor­tant ques­tions with ever-evolving ans­wers, I think.
    I think another good exam­ple would be Neil Gai­man. He star­ted out on the frin­ges of comic books, and has grown into an icon… mainly by the sheer dili­gence of his fans. And mar­ke­ting is all about fin­ding those poten­tial fans!
    Cheers.

  6. patricia says:

    I agree, Gabe. And with the inter­net and blogs, word of mouth can make a ‘small fish’ crea­tion a huge suc­cess. Large publishers know this, too, and even approach lit blog­gers to read and recom­mend their forth­co­ming books (I’ve been approached myself). It’s an exci­ting new world for crea­tive peo­ple, and for mar­ke­ting in gene­ral.
    Get­ting back to Rose, the more I think of it, the more I rea­lize that she is just trying to put a square peg in a round hole. Hugh’s approach may not appeal to her, but there a large popu­la­tion of peo­ple that are inte­res­ted in what he has to offer.

  7. Andertoons says:

    If you’re a car­too­nist and the only way you can think to make a living is syn­di­ca­tion, maybe you need to think outside the panel. When it works and the pro­duct is good, syn­di­ca­tion is great — but it’s not for ever­yone. I’ve tried a cou­ple of strips and panels and never had an ouce of suc­cess, nonethe­less my car­toons appear in major publi­ca­tions on a regu­lar basis and I put food on the table. For me it comes down to this — do work you think is good and find peo­ple who agree with you.

  8. hugh macleod says:

    “Do work you think is good and find peo­ple who agree with you.”
    Ander­toons, yeah, I think that’s a realy good policy.

  9. mei says:

    I once wor­ked in a books­tore that had a lot of rare Gorey edi­tions, one of which was (I believe) “Pages from a Mis­laid Album.” The owner of the books­tore took me away from the regis­ter one day to clean a first edi­tion of “Pages” and I became entran­ced in the story: a girl goes to visit an uncle over­seas and he lets her sit in his gar­den and tells her art is the only thing worth living for. Before she lea­ves, the fur coat clad uncle gives his neice an album of beau­ti­ful scraps of paper. She takes it unce­re­mo­niously, cros­ses an ocean to go home, and grows up. The album is for­got­ten. Later, as a grown woman she hears that the uncle has died. The last page is of the scraps of paper blo­wing away in the wind.
    I was sta­ring at this last illus­tra­tion, done in black, white and deli­cate blue ink when the owner caught me rea­ding.
    “That doesn’t look like clea­ning.”
    “Sorry, I know,” I said. “It’s just such a sad story.”
    The owner was very fami­liar with Gorey’s work but asked me, “What’s so sad about it?”
    “The uncle, he dies in the end.”
    “Well, he was an old man,” said the books­tore owner, him­self an old man.
    And I, a young girl with a bound book of beau­ti­ful scraps of paper in my hands, didn’t have an ans­wer for that.

  10. Jon Husband says:

    Edward Gorey, yay ! One of my faves too.
    Hey and don’t for­get Robert Crumb … altho’ i think he’d much rather have thought of him­self thin­king “in the box” as oppo­sed outside of it .. the pulch­ri­tu­di­nous pen­seur that he was ;-)

  11. essays says:

    Let Him into Your Cliche

    Beware the cliche: via Gaping Void