September 16, 2004

double the conversations

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I really, really like Seth Godin’s basic take on mar­ke­ting. To him, there are only two ques­tions worth asking:

1. Who

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10 Responses to “double the conversations”

  1. Max K. says:

    Yes, but how do you get the peo­ple to talk?

  2. hugh macleod says:

    Well, like Seth says, first you create things worth tal­king about.
    Then the rest is easy ;-)
    If your com­pany can’t create stuff worth tal­king about, why is it even in busi­ness?
    But really, you don’t “get peo­ple to talk”. All you can do is make it easier for them to talk. A slight seman­tic dife­rence, but quite con­si­de­ra­ble a gap in prac­ti­cal terms.
    I know a guy who owns a country hotel. He also keeps a beehive in the back gar­den, which makes THE MOST WONDERFUL honey.
    Every year he sends his best cus­to­mers a wee jar, just to remind them of the hotel, and the won­der­ful break­fasts they serve there, and all the other asso­cia­tions that go along with the place. And the peo­ple share their honey with their friends, so a con­ver­sa­tion follows…
    It’s wee little things like that… good­will begets more good­will, more good­will begets conversations.

  3. Stephan says:

    You can’t MAKE them talk, all you really can do is make it as easy as pos­si­ble to talk about.
    http://www.800ceoread.com/blog/archives/000066.html
    tal­ked about how easy it is to talk about the Atkin’s diet.
    A little bit of jar­gon but not too much, the jar­gon gives someone a teaching moment and jum­ping off point for a lon­ger con­ver­sa­tion. Too much and you start soun­ding like a voca­bu­lary teacher.
    As for your roc­ket science client, it sound like she has the Con­trol bug, she wants to con­trol her company’s image and keep it spot­less, I won­der how to explain to someone that they have no con­trol over that?

  4. j david says:

    Hugh,
    Enjo­ying the site very much– thanks for kee­ping on kee­ping on.
    As for your now for­mer client– you were actually going to inc­rease her sales by 80% (if she had sales of x, .8x from w-o-m, and that you could dou­ble w-o-m sales– her intial sales would grow by .8x gene­ra­ting 1.8x in sales: an inc­rease of 80%)- she mis­sed the boat on a cou­ple of levels!

  5. Tom says:

    Boy, I couldn’t agree more with your spe­cu­la­tion that the client was terri­fied of “uncon­tro­lled” con­ver­sa­tions going on about her pro­duct. This is a night­mare for a mar­ke­ting exe­cu­tive who wants everything to be “brand right,” which they all do; never mide if it’s “brand true,” it’s all got to be “alig­ned,” “on point” and “on mes­sage.“
    Those fears are a key cha­rac­te­ris­tic of the con­trol men­ta­lity that keeps busi­nes­ses from hea­ring what their cus­to­mers really think about them and their pro­ducts.
    If any of that makes sense, and you’d like to hear more, go vote for my Mani­festo Pro­po­sal at:
    http://www.changethis.com/proposals/182

  6. DJ Coffman says:

    Thats all very fas­ci­na­ting to me.
    I won­der how I can apply these con­cepts to comic books. To make them bet­ter. That’s always on my mind– of course I don’t sit around dumb­foun­ded, I have tons of ideas about this—
    I think it’s all about plan­ting that seed. If that makes any sense. Plant the seed that leads to the con­ver­sa­tions peo­ple crave.

  7. Richard says:

    See, now this sort of post makes sense. It’s all the other heart­less, cut-you-adrift-if-you-don’t-follow-me, “give me exce­llence of give me death” bull that I can’t stand.
    Note to Hugh: I still haven’t had a con­ver­sa­tion with anyone about your site. I’m worried they’ll think I agree with the coked-up ego stuff…

  8. hugh macleod says:

    Richard, in the future we won’t have to go through the expen­sive and stress­ful job of firing peo­ple– we’ll just ban their ISP addres­ses ins­tead ;-)

  9. Some­day peo­ple will rea­lize that the pro­duct IS the expe­rience, and they can’t sepa­rate the two, nor can they keep anyone from tal­king about it. As such, you’d bet­ter be doing 100% qua­lity work from the ground up. There is no down­time any­more…
    I’d hate to work for a com­pany that DIDN’T want peo­ple to talk about their product…

  10. AcouSvnt says:

    I was just going to say basi­cally the same thing j david said … dou­bling the 80% would give you 180%, because you’d still have the ori­gi­nal 20% that weren’t word of mouth.